Multi batteries with a solenoid setup!
05-03-2009, 11:11 PM
#11
u only need a solenoid (actually called battery isolator) if the battery at the back isnt the same as the one at the front. and if that is the case then you are doing it backwards anyways.
always have identical batteries at the front and back. put another 2400 ( battery btw) under the hood. or if you only have two 2400's to play with, get rid of the battery that's under the hood and put one of the 2400's there. ground them to the frame as well to each other, as well as the amp.
a weaker battery at the front will get killed either way, isolator or not.
the more runs of wire you will install, the more they will defeat the purpose if you have an isolator on all of them.
always have identical batteries at the front and back. put another 2400 ( battery btw) under the hood. or if you only have two 2400's to play with, get rid of the battery that's under the hood and put one of the 2400's there. ground them to the frame as well to each other, as well as the amp.
a weaker battery at the front will get killed either way, isolator or not.
the more runs of wire you will install, the more they will defeat the purpose if you have an isolator on all of them.
05-03-2009, 11:51 PM
#14
the only reason why i run a second wire from the back battery to the front battery(the ground wire) is b/c that is what kinetik recommends! but they also recommend using 2 of the same batteries.
i believe and this coudl be wrong if you have the same batteries you don't need a soleniod, but if you have say a mastercrap and a kinetik (2 different batteries) you need to use a soleniod set up!
you asked shouldn't the relay be in serial connection with the soleniod?... isn't that how it is in the diagram?
HU->relay->soleniod->back batteries
the relay is there to TURN on the soleniod when the HU turns on.
is that what you were asking or did i miss my guess? if i did sorry!
i believe and this coudl be wrong if you have the same batteries you don't need a soleniod, but if you have say a mastercrap and a kinetik (2 different batteries) you need to use a soleniod set up!
you asked shouldn't the relay be in serial connection with the soleniod?... isn't that how it is in the diagram?
HU->relay->soleniod->back batteries
the relay is there to TURN on the soleniod when the HU turns on.
is that what you were asking or did i miss my guess? if i did sorry!
And my batteries will be no-name batteries, one for my car (front) and the back one preferably with long amp hours maybe truck battery. I don't get how they can drain each other (Voltage difference?) But if something i have a 200amp relay and I will be shutting them off when I get out every time. Simpler.
Now regarding to the ground that runs from the back to the front battery- frame seems to be a better (less resistance) conductor then the cable, so most of the charge will still go through the frame, making that wire quite useless (again this is theory, I never tested that).
05-04-2009, 12:11 AM
#15
oo in my diagram it show
front -> soleniod -> back batteries using 0/1 gauge wire
it also shows
front -> relay -> soleniod using 20awg wire!
hope that clears your question up, keepp in mind i don't know if my diagram is correct but maltesechicken seems to think it is so i don't know! the small relay will tell the big relay when to turn on! and the small relay gets told to turn on via the HU!
front -> soleniod -> back batteries using 0/1 gauge wire
it also shows
front -> relay -> soleniod using 20awg wire!
hope that clears your question up, keepp in mind i don't know if my diagram is correct but maltesechicken seems to think it is so i don't know! the small relay will tell the big relay when to turn on! and the small relay gets told to turn on via the HU!
05-04-2009, 11:34 AM
#16
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When running more then one battery, say 2 or 3, I have heard I should use a SOLDENIOD to prevent the back battery or batteries from being drain by the front battery.
Should I be using a solenoid setup? Does anyone use a solenoid or a battery isolator/regulator?
One more fast question, the more runs I have going off of the front battery will require more solenoids? Correct?
thanks for your time
Kenneth
p/s here is a little diagram of how I think it should be setup, if this is incorrect please let me know!
Attachment 6575
Sorry I am not a very good at making picture with paint, the bottom right hand corner are suppose to be 2 Kinetik HC2400 batteries hooked in parallel, and yes I didn't include a returning negative wire from the 2400s to the front battery!
Should I be using a solenoid setup? Does anyone use a solenoid or a battery isolator/regulator?
One more fast question, the more runs I have going off of the front battery will require more solenoids? Correct?
thanks for your time
Kenneth
p/s here is a little diagram of how I think it should be setup, if this is incorrect please let me know!
Attachment 6575
Sorry I am not a very good at making picture with paint, the bottom right hand corner are suppose to be 2 Kinetik HC2400 batteries hooked in parallel, and yes I didn't include a returning negative wire from the 2400s to the front battery!
05-04-2009, 11:48 AM
#17
05-04-2009, 11:50 AM
#18
but i though that these type of isolators have a voltage drop? is this correct?
and is this the isolator you are talking about?
battery isolator | Charging Accessories | Electrical | Truck & Trailer | Princess Auto
and is this the isolator you are talking about?
battery isolator | Charging Accessories | Electrical | Truck & Trailer | Princess Auto
05-04-2009, 11:54 AM
#19
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Posts: 537
but i though that these type of isolators have a voltage drop? is this correct?
and is this the isolator you are talking about?
battery isolator | Charging Accessories | Electrical | Truck & Trailer | Princess Auto
and is this the isolator you are talking about?
battery isolator | Charging Accessories | Electrical | Truck & Trailer | Princess Auto
