Voltage drop/ multiple runs/ actual SPL loss??
#11
You will have to do it with a load, to check the actual voltage drop on your cables.
remove the cables from the amp and put a simple battery tester on. Ask a friend to measure the 3 points again (the best would be all at the same time) while you load the batteries. These testers normally apply 100A load.
remove the cables from the amp and put a simple battery tester on. Ask a friend to measure the 3 points again (the best would be all at the same time) while you load the batteries. These testers normally apply 100A load.
#13
US amps xt2000d ,not the xt2000de , the older ones.
We were thinking that throwing more power( ie. a bigger $pricey$ amp) was the way to go, but we soon realized that we would need to upgrade all the electrical anyhow.
Would be nice to see a big db gain without a new $1000 amp added onto the Alt/batt. etc budget.
There's been more than a few ppl that think we should be 5-10db higher than we are.
If I pretend that we have the money right now to change ANYTHING but the amps....hows this dream sound?
- 2x kinetik 16v batt.
- 250 to 300 amp Alt that can charge above batteries properly
- multiple runs of 1/0
- strap the amps , although they are not strappable, using the $100 maxxlink thingy they would be.
- run the two xt2000d's strapped from the 16v batteries on 3 - 12" 2ohm DVC's for a 1.33 load, so each amp sees 0.67 load
Fun dream... would it work?
We ran those amps full out with all we had at 1ohm for hours on end this summer, the ONLY time they even got warm , was on the 35deg. days !!
We were thinking that throwing more power( ie. a bigger $pricey$ amp) was the way to go, but we soon realized that we would need to upgrade all the electrical anyhow.
Would be nice to see a big db gain without a new $1000 amp added onto the Alt/batt. etc budget.
There's been more than a few ppl that think we should be 5-10db higher than we are.
If I pretend that we have the money right now to change ANYTHING but the amps....hows this dream sound?
- 2x kinetik 16v batt.
- 250 to 300 amp Alt that can charge above batteries properly
- multiple runs of 1/0
- strap the amps , although they are not strappable, using the $100 maxxlink thingy they would be.
- run the two xt2000d's strapped from the 16v batteries on 3 - 12" 2ohm DVC's for a 1.33 load, so each amp sees 0.67 load
Fun dream... would it work?
We ran those amps full out with all we had at 1ohm for hours on end this summer, the ONLY time they even got warm , was on the 35deg. days !!
#14
You will have to do it with a load, to check the actual voltage drop on your cables.
remove the cables from the amp and put a simple battery tester on. Ask a friend to measure the 3 points again (the best would be all at the same time) while you load the batteries. These testers normally apply 100A load.
remove the cables from the amp and put a simple battery tester on. Ask a friend to measure the 3 points again (the best would be all at the same time) while you load the batteries. These testers normally apply 100A load.
#15
lol listen
u dont need a 16v set up. most amps wont even work on 16+v set ups, my guess is that amp wont.
also, it is a 1200 watt amp, now much spl are you tryin to get out of it?
5-10 db's higher than what? not sure what u are doing now? low 140 i think?
here is how your money dream should go - new battery, more cables, termlab.
u dont need a 16v set up. most amps wont even work on 16+v set ups, my guess is that amp wont.
also, it is a 1200 watt amp, now much spl are you tryin to get out of it?
5-10 db's higher than what? not sure what u are doing now? low 140 i think?
here is how your money dream should go - new battery, more cables, termlab.
#16
135db..
Sooooo you're saying.. Stop getting so excited/simplicity is good ?
The goal is to 39.9 bassrace.
After some practice on a TL at Barrie(Thanks again DS) I can see why it a TL should be high on the list, but it never crossed my mind til you mentioned it. Pricey piece but worth it
Its one of those things, where I know things will get bigger and louder in time and I don't mind the wait.
What I don't want to do is buy any more gear I feel like replacing 6 months down the road. thats how things go I guess
If those amps can run .67 each at 12v I could still add more cone area (ie 1 more 12") on the same amps anyhow.
Thanks for humoring me bro
Sooooo you're saying.. Stop getting so excited/simplicity is good ?
The goal is to 39.9 bassrace.
After some practice on a TL at Barrie(Thanks again DS) I can see why it a TL should be high on the list, but it never crossed my mind til you mentioned it. Pricey piece but worth it
Its one of those things, where I know things will get bigger and louder in time and I don't mind the wait.
What I don't want to do is buy any more gear I feel like replacing 6 months down the road. thats how things go I guess
If those amps can run .67 each at 12v I could still add more cone area (ie 1 more 12") on the same amps anyhow.
Thanks for humoring me bro
#17
any time.
i would say 145 db's on 1200 watt amp in a van is a loooooooooong shot.
if bass race all you want to do you might not need a termlab. there is a number of guys in Toronto who's probably let you practice on theirs.
i think money would be better spent on a couple of batteries and some cable.
i'd also sell that amp and get something in the 2500 watt range + more cone area.
i would say 145 db's on 1200 watt amp in a van is a loooooooooong shot.
if bass race all you want to do you might not need a termlab. there is a number of guys in Toronto who's probably let you practice on theirs.
i think money would be better spent on a couple of batteries and some cable.
i'd also sell that amp and get something in the 2500 watt range + more cone area.
#19
We actually have two of the xt' 2000ds. Just at this moment we only have one amp hooked up on a couple non competition worthy subs we had. We were kinda getting ready to tear stuff out again, but left something in just to have some music.
So wee should hit 145 with both 2 amps , 3 12's (now 2) and the elec. upgrade.... If we can do it right..lol
Something to work for..
So wee should hit 145 with both 2 amps , 3 12's (now 2) and the elec. upgrade.... If we can do it right..lol
Something to work for..
#20
yah u should be able to do 145, but remember, 145 in a burp is not 139.9 bass race neccessarily. it is all frequency dependant.
normally i would suggest you pick one goal at a time - either 145 burp or 139.9 bass race.
normally i would suggest you pick one goal at a time - either 145 burp or 139.9 bass race.