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Old 12-18-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukk
Oh yeah - the Shakti stone! Right up there with wood pucks, blue dots, and green markers.

Remember - if you can't hear the difference, your gear must be inferior!
that should be a sticky, for the #1 rule of thumb.

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Old 12-19-2006, 07:45 PM
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all power ran through audio equipment first go through a transformer then a rectifier

so honestly what else are you going to do that is going to make it better

more transformers and rectifiers

this whole power crap blows my mind
and to see all the stupid ***'s buying this crap
unfortualty people i know get sucked in
i don't have the heart to tell them what i think
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:33 PM
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if you've already dropped 10-20k in your home theater setup, what's another grand for a power conditioner... one coudl pay upwards of 300 dolars for a HT grade surge protector... it's all reletive.

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Old 12-19-2006, 08:48 PM
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hay linn made a cd player for 30k
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zzzzzzz
hay linn made a cd player for 30k
There's a set of tower speakers that would run you about 250USD... you would never have to 'try' to spend money on home audio... that's for sure.

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Old 12-19-2006, 09:07 PM
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it wint to a set of linn 50k tower speakers
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:30 PM
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I will agree some "tweaks" are over the top.

I always suggest "reasonable" interconnects - ie $30-50 range

I have line conditioners $200 -300 and they help, but I do not hear or see a huge difference -- but they do protect your gear better than $15 Walmart specials.

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Old 12-19-2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mike bisson
I will agree some "tweaks" are over the top.

I always suggest "reasonable" interconnects - ie $30-50 range

I have line conditioners $200 -300 and they help, but I do not hear or see a huge difference -- but they do protect your gear better than $15 Walmart specials.

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It's my understanding that most of them, or atleast the better ones come with 100k warrantee's sometimes, so for the one time expense, it's not a bad ins. plan for the thousands of dollars in audio gear in your house.

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Old 12-20-2006, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mike bisson
I will agree some "tweaks" are over the top.

I always suggest "reasonable" interconnects - ie $30-50 range

I have line conditioners $200 -300 and they help, but I do not hear or see a huge difference -- but they do protect your gear better than $15 Walmart specials.

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its not about flaming you mike. i`ve spent alot of money on that kind of stuff as well. its about the question "can we hear the difference", or is our wallet perceiving our ears into hearing the difference. the only way is to test the equipment with a meter before your expensive upgrade and than after. i friend of mine thats into electronics told me that the differences (for example) between a pair of standard interconnects and a expensive pair would not be audible to the human ear. now i have no proof, just his word but if you follow the teachings of richard clark it might shed some light on this debate.

ac current is much different than dc current. our car audio amps are always hungry for power, and its alot of hard expensive work to provide them with it. but ac is at constant supply. here is a pic of my home system that i have posted before.
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it is comprised of two power amps and 3 intergrated amps. when i would crank it up it would dim the lights in that room. so what i did i ran a dedicated line off my fuse panel. my father-in-law had a ream of 14-2 in his garage. i wanted 12 or 10-2 cause i figured the draw of the sytem would exceed that ampacity of the wire. after a days work of fishing the wire through the ceiling, and using a hospital grade (orange) oulet i used an amp meter to measure the draw. i cranked the system right up and the draw was 4-6 amps tops. i figured it would be running close the the breakers limit of 15amps. i was relieved that i didn`t spend the money on the 10-2 wire which would have been around 150 bucks for that length.

now if 5 amps draws 4-6 amps (which is nothing that future shops has), why would you spend a grand on a monster power conditioner for a surround sound amp that doesn`t draw anything close to what i have?
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:51 AM
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You guys must be stoopid if you don't think a power conditioner makes a huge audible difference... just read the literature !

we have literally thousands of non linear loads such as solid state motor controls, air conditioners and computer switching power supplies plus a myriad of other disturbances inducing devices from fluorescent lights to utility switchgear. The result is severely distorted waveforms, sags, notches, EMI, RFI, harmonic voltage and current distortion, line noise, transients, surges, brownouts and blackouts, all conveniently delivered to your home wiring. In this age of stressed utility systems and deregulation, don't expect your local utility to come to your rescue!

To explain some of these phenomena, let's start with what is called Power Factor, described above as "voltage and current distortion". When the voltage and current of the 60-Hz signal get out of phase with each other, as they do in long cable runs through numerous transformers, higher order harmonics are created that can induce distortion in audio/video component power supplies that can affect audio or video quality. And then there's all the other junk listed above.


I rest my case...
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