*POLL* Are you in for The Amateur Challange & Bass Race at the up coming show?
 

You can only make 1 selection in the poll. It is public.


Basically the Amateur Challange will be up to 2000 watts. There wll be 2 Street Stock classes for db drag, anyone with a 2000 watt or less amp is legible to enter the amateur challange for extra $2.

Your scores from the Qualifying and Elimination runs in Street Stock classes will count as your Amateur Challange scores.


There will also be bass race 129.9 class

Bass Race Rules are here

click that ^^

so if i read correctly, cars are allowed to be turned on and revved no higher than 2000rpm? also are you allowed to use iPod connectivity or must it be on a CD that is purchased via HMV?

car can be on. i think you are allowed to use any source.

i ask because the rules say no burned CD's and mention nothing about iPod connectivity. but yeah, i'm in for both events to answer the poll

Car being on will be up to the shop owner. The runs are inside so I don't wanna die of carbon monoxide poisoning. If anyone has exhaust hose please bring it!

what now I have to go out and buy a CD??? bah!!! now it is time to research unless someone knows a good CD...

Oh and I dont care about being first but I want a trophy just for showing up :D

its not like I am going to get a track run it through pro tools and run a test tone in the background then put it on a CD :D :hah:

question is, which noob is goind to win?

x2 ^^ Are there CDs that are better than others recording wise? Has one CD won more than any others? Will have to buy, or borrow a CD then as all mine are burnt. I would assume borrowing a CD is ok as long as it is an acceptable CD? I should be in for both, still waiting to hear from the boss about coming in late that day, but don't see a problem so far.

no cd is better than other. what makes all the difference is WHAT you play, as in which song or frequency. What can also make a difference is your source, but the difference that makes is not very significant, especially not in low powered set ups.

Cool thanks Yuli, so I guess it is time to start really listening to some tracks that seem to sound better on my setup and see if I can then find the actual CD. It has to be store bought and not burnt correct?

i think the easiest thing might be to overlook the no burnt cd's rule and hope everyone plays fair and doesn't add bass to their track, i mean, nobody here is that much of a douchebag right? however, my question now is does this mean the noobs pay $22 or just $2? or is it like $2 plus food, cuz the flyer said $20 entrance fee but the rules post said amateur challenge for $2. i'm confused :( ...hmm, if burnt cds are banned i wonder how many people are going to buy carter 3 and play a milli

oh, and i will take 1st place for showing up please

its $2 extra. you can add all the bass to your tracks you want, it wont help you. it's all frequency dependant. bass boosts dont gain anything at all.

what you need to do is get a song that has good bass, load it into a program like fruity loops, pro tools or reason. Now in the 30sec section of the song you want to use for the comp you load in a 20-60hz sweep, or the Hz that you know works best in your situation sweeps are easier to hide :D. Then you hit record and then burn, there is your secret track which is why burned CD's arent allowed would be my guess.

w/e, i'm taking first place in the n00b challenge i got 3 enclosures ready for this event

then I dont think you really qualify as a newb...

To answer some of your questions about source material :
YES you can use copied cds / mp3 cds
YES you can use an iPod
NO you can't use sweeps
NO you can't use 30 sec. tones

sick, all my cds are burned anyways. so now i guess all the noobs have to hope that nobody cheats and hides test tones in their songs *cough* Epica-Go-Boom *cough*

i have never competed before in my life.

i did this like 4 years ago. it doesnt help at all. the best tool is the spl meter. a 20 to 60hz sweep is way too wide by the way. chances are you are not peaking below 35 or higher than 55.

also a range of 20 to 60 hz will give you a terrible bass race score. I'd take my chances playing radio.

all of you guys are finding ways to bent the rules to try to win dont waste your time. I'll tell you myslef i've tried all of it - boosting bass in a song, encoding a frequency range into a song, etc, etc. But if you saw my competition cd player you'd see that it's all set on flat. Everything at 0, including bass and with all xovers also set on flat.

There is ONE thing that helps your score HUGE and is considered cheating. It does have to do with combining sounds as well. But unless you know how the TermLab mic works you'll never figure it out. Europeans did it a few years back, and got caught doing it. But this method could only get you by when you are burping straight up, doesnt help in Street Stock or Bass Race.

ha ha my computer isnt even good enough to run those programs so no need to fear about that, I just know how to do it.

What about doing your own custom track in one of those music producing programs, is that allowed?

it all comes down to the right frequency and signal strenght. Louder bass doesnt mean either. You should obtain the same score weather the bass is bosted or not, just at a different volume. But spl will be the same in both cases.

then i guess i should load some tones between 40 and 50 hz into an mpc and make some beats...oh no! my secret plan!!

So much stuff to talk about in this thread...
-About cheating and making a cd....Would you really feel good about winning if you knew you cheated???...PLUS I'm pretty sure that they'll check everyone's cd before they run.
-I think it's a fair rule to only use bought cd's. Richard did this last season in CSPL and as an AMA competitor I didn't have any problems with it. I actually lent out a couple cds to other competitiors at finals...
-The Carter 3... A milli track isn't a good pick because the bass cuts out completely for a few seconds...Yuli I'm sure will back me up that anything that cuts the bass out is NOT a good track to pick for base race.
-I competed in Base Race once last year (thanks Dave & Ed for the help by the way) I used a song from Bubba Sparxx and I hear Gold Digger by Kanye is a good track to use.
- There are also bass race specific cd's that I know Don & Mike will have at the show....I'm sure they'd be up for use.
-$20 gets your entry fee and food....I think it's an additional $2 for the noob challenge..

well i figured the bass cutting out wasn't a good thing, but i listen to my music slow so if burned cds were allowed my copy of a milli would have had a little longer bass, but i understand your point about the cheating thing, and like i said i'm sure there isn't anyone on here who is enough of a douche to try something like that. i would still say that overlooking the no burned cds rule could be overlooked just so that people don't have to go and spend extra money for a disc if they buy their music as mp3s and such. plus it makes it easier for people to bring different types of music instead of everyone showing up with a bass mekanik cd or playing kanye's part in put on

i think anyone that can hit a 130 as a noob needs to try bass race. it's a blast. what does it matter if bass race cd's are burnt or not? it's doesn't make it any easier to make a perfect 129.9, and for the amateur challange, are we using music or htz? i'm a amateur @ 1000 watts rms. i might do street stock this year. keep it simple.

i think for the n00b challenge its gonna be HZ since its who is the loudest

If the termlab Bass Race application finds and reads a constant test tone in the background of your song you will get RedLine (DQ) automatically.

awwwwe man why did you have to say that? I was hoping to someone to try it and get caught. damn it.

ha ha would of been funny... :sly:

:hah:

hihihhi and you think by me saying this that this isn't going to happen !?!?!?

better get the cheap beer ready for the in-car shower for whoever gets busted.... :cheeky4:

i doubt people are stupid enough to stoop down to the level and cheat.

ok well i'm really a noob, but from what i know about music they are just tones at different frequencies, so what if a song sounds like it has a tone in it and gets registered on the mic even if the mic is wrong?

im in for bass race, turns out ill still have my weak ass daily setup installed..sweet

Is there any genre of music that isnt allowed? like say Electronica?

trust me, no song has a continuous 4 minute long 45hz tone that plays through the entire song without a break.

as far as i know you can play w/e genre you wanna

all you need is 30 seconds