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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Street C Massa
so if i buy one or two...and test them to do 1500 watts what happens then? Do I get my money back? How far are you willing to go to back up your product?

What I could see happening is all the soundown lovers would claim my test was biased and stay in their own world of disbelief.
If you test them to do 1500 watts @ 1 ohm at 12.5 volts, thats what they are advertised to do

I'm not arguing in this thread anymore, period. I am sending some amps to Jordy. Whether you buy them or not is up to you.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Ok, sorry to get involved in this.. Silverbain, you were running the sundown at the first FX show, correct? That was my first competition. Other than the very few tests I have done using a local shops mic. We base-raced against eachother correct? Considering you are the representative, or distributor, or whatever it is (sorry, my memory slips), I'm asuming that you HAD the gains setup correctly on the amplifier. And if my memory is correct with this, you were running 4 gauge wiring as well. Didn't I post a higher score running a rated 350 watts?

Once again, I hate to sound like a dick, and I'm definately not questioning the sundown amplifiers. But I am questioning YOU. In the ability to properly set up an amp, box, or just the entire system itself.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Smartass
Yuli look, man you know your very well and your a good . But you are a strong DD guy and I know you have or had some Z1 and so on. But this was not even a proper test. You know that dude. And everyone knows that you do not compete with gains at zero. Different amps perform different with gains at zero. The whole idea is to use the gain to match the amp to the HU in order to get the maximum performance from the equipment. The Z1 was made for SPL hands down. Even you have said as a daily it sucks *****. Both amps are made for different purposes.
with the line driver and voltage that is used in the caravan, it's safe to say that the volume was rolled up with the line driver, so wether or not the gain was turned up, it would have seen max output....the gain control is NOT a volume controller, it's used to match the outputs of several amplifiers or to match to the input voltage...
if you're going to sell car audio, do some research...
the amplifier output to spl output was fair, considering the output rating.
with the results, you can see that the sundowns produced half of the power, and half the spl...1500wrms strapped at 16 volts..
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The C Team
How come jordy gets to test them? Honestly, there are much more seasoned SPL competitors in Canada, who own and have access to more amps. Jordy seems like a good guy, but if he has yet to break 150 with his panda, I dont see why no one else is qualified.
Jordy gets to do the test since he is a mod here and I have verification that he is legit. I'm not sending out products to just anyone without a deposit, how do you even think that is a good idea? I'm not taking a financial risk on people who already go out of their way to bash my products.

And what does a dB score have to do with someones ability to measure amplifier output?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Loud Brown Kicker Colt
with the line driver and voltage that is used in the caravan, it's safe to say that the volume was rolled up with the line driver, so wether or not the gain was turned up, it would have seen max output....the gain control is NOT a volume controller, it's used to match the outputs of several amplifiers or to match to the input voltage...
if you're going to sell car audio, do some research...
the amplifier output to spl output was fair, considering the output rating.
with the results, you can see that the sundowns produced half of the power, and half the spl...1500wrms strapped at 16 volts..
I still don't understand why it is that you have this idea that everyone in the USA who has clamped these amps is totally wrong. MANY people have clamped them... including the officials at nSPL.

I can go video tape myself clamping one of these amps right now and get over 1500 watts at 12 volts. I've done it and posted it... but apparently I made that up.

Anyhow... you can try to discredit Jordy's test if you want when he gets the amps. Until then there is no point to continue discussing a test that was done without any effort to optimize the tested amplifier.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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I can not believe this is still going. BTW you do not need to break 150 to know how to test an amplifier properly just for the record. And Loud Brown, I suggest you read my post again. I even state the gain is to match signal levels so why your telling me to do research is beyond me. Jordy will be a good testing source. Anyone in the spl scene from the west would not be regardless of experience due to the whole scene is anti-Sundown and has been from the get go.

BTW I noticed nobody mentioned my comment. If Sundown boards are basically the same boards as Cactus, RD, Atomic and a few others does that also mean they are lying about power ratings?????????

Its not hard to understand, there is either

A) Problem with the amp
B) Setup Problem

Thats it make your choice, because this amp has been spec'ed over and over and all the same results.....except for the west coast.....hmmm pretty convenient.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wasted911
Ok, sorry to get involved in this.. Silverbain, you were running the sundown at the first FX show, correct? That was my first competition. Other than the very few tests I have done using a local shops mic. We base-raced against eachother correct? Considering you are the representative, or distributor, or whatever it is (sorry, my memory slips), I'm asuming that you HAD the gains setup correctly on the amplifier. And if my memory is correct with this, you were running 4 gauge wiring as well. Didn't I post a higher score running a rated 350 watts?

Once again, I hate to sound like a dick, and I'm definately not questioning the sundown amplifiers. But I am questioning YOU. In the ability to properly set up an amp, box, or just the entire system itself.
Yep, at the first fx show you can chalk it up to me doing a poor install. I have stated it was poor, prefab box, 4 gauge wire to 2 amps, load at over 3 ohms. It was a couple hour job. I have been working on car audio a while, but this year is first year dabbling in competition.

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