JohnVroom

and what have you done? you put on a show? you hold a training event? did you pass out fliers? help the judges at a show? one of the biggest turn offs for retailers is drama (drama doesn't sell crap and people get emotional over a hobby). Remember to be part of the solution.



If you want shows support retailers who have shows, isn't that simple! I did a lot of shows and I saw a lot of this stuff, it is hard to have shows if your only marginally profitable BUT a good show should involve the retailer and the competitor so that they better understand each other (the retailer must sell what the competitor wants at a reasonable cost and the customer needs to take advantage of a shop with a clue to SQ or a clue to SPL). It takes a lot of work sometimes to build a show up (it can take putting on several shows a year but eventually they will come). A car audio show should be a basic PR tool for most reputable shops, it is a great opportunity to grow the business.

luke99

i totally agreee

thats why i havnt had a problom donating prizes for shows or help judge showss this year , I do what i can to help out , im working on a venue for a september show ill be putting on and also will be donating prizes to the western finals , i dont have a problom putting on shows or helping out at shows id just like to sport to continue to grow its in a rutt right now here in the west and i wanna push to keep it going strong

Dukk

I told you why - nobody else stepped up (how about attacking the shops that didn't even host a training), and as a personal favor to both Jason and me.

He doesn't want to. He has no need to justify it to you.

Not really. Just when you're being an *** and, in this case, discrediting a good friend of mine.

I work in it. I've taught/trained countless people on all things car audio. I do things like get my friends to host an IASCA training. I spend a ton of time here both helping people out and keeping an eye on people like you.

What I don't do: Go online and bitch that shops don't hold shows or that their shows don't accommodate my personal needs, or that it costs so much for me to go to shows because I live in a remote area.

By attacking shops for trying to help get qualified people out there so IF any of the other 20 shops in the greater Vancouver area that haven't done a damned thing want to host a show they don't have to import a judge out of Seattle? Is it working?



How many VanIsland shops are hosting an IASCA show this year? Those are right in your own backyard man. Hey - it wouldn't even cost you so much and take so long for you to travel to..

luke99

ya as the title states training for what does nothing to help anyone and why host training when theres no intention to do a show , doesnt take an idiot to seee that it doesnt make sense

im already a certified iasca judge and there will be a show on vancouver island this year weather it be iasca, db drag or usaci there will be a show so thats money out of my pocket to do the show none of the money hungry shops that are only out for a proffit

IT Hz

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Money Hungry shops that are only out for profit, ouch Luke I strongly suggest you tone that down. Comments like that are going to offend many retailers, and with that being said the ones who were thinking of doing shows will definitely think twice because of what you said. I've been installing for 20 years in this industry, retail = profit that is how it is, bottom line. How a person goes about there retail business will equal how successful they will be. Good thing I'm the only CCA member at my shop I work at.

jonesbrooklyn

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He can't help himself. He's nothing but a hobbit.

luke99

didnt single out 1 shop i said some shops will not do shows because they know they will not proffit from the show , doesnt take a genious to seee that some shops only care about 1 thing and 1 thing only and thats making a proffit , not giving back to the customer

Dukk

So if it makes sense to you, then...

Which is damned scary. See above.

Dukk

Obviously it doesn't since you fail to see that shops have to look at a bigger picture than merely providing a means for you to conduct your hobby.

luke99

its not a hobby its a lifestyle , its suppose to be the shops passion as well , whatever if you want to see competitions die then thats your oppinion