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Old 03-30-2014, 03:40 PM
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Question car is cranking for a long time but won't start after remote start installation....

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I installed Autostart AS2381TW 2-Way remote starter with Fortin Evoall Bypass module in my 2009 Honda Civic A/T. After the remote start and Bypass module installation, when I try to start the car it's cranking for a long time but won't start. If I use the key in the ignition (key in off position) it's starting perfectly without any problems using the remote starter command.

The lock, unlock and trunk commands are working fine.

I programmed the bypass module as per the instructions in the manual and it's programmed very well as described in the manual. I double checked the wiring connections and there is no errors in the wiring. It's frustrating because as per the forums discussions it's something to do with the Bypass module.

I would appreciate your help for the above regard. Thank you.
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:07 PM
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I would go back and check the wiring thats been done , sounds alot like a mismatched wire , try checking the wiring and see if something was incorrect in the wiring
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:27 PM
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Be sure that you have the Autostart programmed for the Fortin module. Look at your install guide and be sure that Mode 4, Function 4 is option 3. Then give it a go.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:34 PM
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Hi,

Thank you for your reply. I tried the way u said, but no success. It's automatic transmission car. So when I called the fortin tech guy, he said I don't need to use tach wire because it's A/T. So I did the virtual tach program first and programmed to Mode 4 as u explained, but no luck. I'm planning to call Fortin Tech tomorrow and try to solve the problem. Do u have any other suggests? Thanks once again.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:10 AM
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Don't use the virtual tach, you need to use a tach signal because in colder weather situations your car will not start. Tach is easy to access, remove the black plastic cover on top of the motor and go to the coil wires, brown is your tach signal.

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Old 03-31-2014, 10:39 AM
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Your bypass module or the installation of the module is the issue, I would use the Idatalink AL-CA bypass module. They work excellent and are simple to install in those cars.
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Unhappy still looking for the solution...

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I appreciate your suggestions and thanks a lot. After unsuccessful events of module flashing, when I called Fortin Tech and they said it looks like the Tach issue and they suggested me to do the hard wiring instead of D2D mode.

So initially I cut the BLUE and WHITE wires of Data cable (Red and black wires are intact) and I did the hard wiring from the bypass module to remote starter wires of LOCK, UNLOCK, TRUNK WIRE, BRAKE WIRE AND TACH WIRE (This one I connected from Bypass module to Remote start and from there to Fuel injector wire directly. There is a Black common wire of Pin-2 in every fuel injector, so I connected the tach wire to 4th fuel injector of Black wire). However when I try to start the car using remote start it still cranking but didn't start. If I keep the key in Ignition (key in off position) it's starting without any issue. Since I did the hard wiring of the bypass module, it shouldn't get me any trouble, BUT STILL.... Anyhow my questions are,

Need I have to do the Bypass module Programming and Remote starter program once again (Even though I did couple of times earlier?)

Need I have to do the Tach program still OR Because it's hard wired, so it's not necessary? If I need please guide me the tach program (In Autostart RS manual there is only VIRTUAL TACH programming instructions are given)?

I'm absolutely clueless what else I can do here. It's really frustrating because I recently did the Viper 5704v remote starter installation in my 2006 Honda Element manual transmission successfully, but this car (2009 Honda Civic Auto trans) giving me the heck of the troubles which supposed to be lot easier compared to manual transmission.

Look forward to hear from u guys.

Thanks again.
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Hi,

I connected the tach wire of Bypass module and Remote starter TO BROWN wire of fuel injector (The Directed Tech Guy also recommended that wire) and did the Multi-Speed Tach Program. But still NO LUCK.

If I leave the key the key in Ignition (key in off position) it's starting without any issue. However I cut the BLUE and WHITE wires of Data cable (Red and black wires are intact) and I did the hard wiring from the bypass module to remote starter wires of LOCK, UNLOCK, TRUNK WIRE, BRAKE WIRE AND TACH WIRE. So I'm not sure is this still do with the Bypass module OR anything to do with the Tach.

If nothing works I want to change the Fortin bypass module to Xpresskit bypass module (recommended to this AS2381TW-FM Remote Starter).

THANKS AGAIN...
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Use the idatalink AL-CA bypass module its far superior then what your using and the xpresskit module.
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Finally Finally Finally the project got success. All I did is changing the module to ADS AL-CA as you suggested. Just programmed the ADS... BOOM, the car started like a charm. Never ever wants to go with the Fortin bypass module again...Thank you all for your valuable inputs and the extent of support in this Success.

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