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Old 07-31-2010, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by veeman
No...that mtx is 1200 watts at 1 ohm which is good for the first subs (dual 4ohm versions) and with 1200 rms watts you need a minimum of 4 awg wire, 0awg would be a good idea so you can add more later if you choose, plus there's less voltage drop with bigger wire which means more juice from your amp.
Okay so would these wires be okay ?

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=94069&brandtype=245

Is it necessary to get a new battery for this whole setup?

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A battery and an alternator wouldn't hurt to keep the voltage constant. Most stock alternators are good for 2000W before dimming. My stock-electrical 00 Sunfire GT didn't dim at all with 1500W @ 1 ohm, but it definetly wasn't putting out 1500W. Shoot for a 1500W amp if you want 1200W to the subs with stock electrical. So no, you don't exactly need to upgrade the electrical, but definetly do the big three and use 1.0 gauge wire.
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Whats 1.0 Gauge wire ? Where can I get that for cheap online ?
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1.0 gauge is the largest size speaker wire you can hook up to an amp (battery & ground), depending if the amp accepts that size. It obviously has better conductivity. Any shop has it.
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Originally Posted by ChandlerD
Okay so would these wires be okay ?

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=94069&brandtype=245

Is it necessary to get a new battery for this whole setup?

Thanks again veeman !
those are speaker wires for your speakers which are too expensive anyway (you can get this stuff at home depot and rona for a lot cheaper...copper is copper, don't get hooked by big name wire all they do is put a fancy jacket on the same wire and sell it for 3x-10x the price). For 0 awg (american wire guage) wire go to a welding supply company and buy it...it's plain black, actual 0 awg and cheaper than the fancy stuff but works at least as well. No you don't need a battery at this time, but you may depending on your listening habits...that can be added later if you need it. yw

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Old 08-02-2010, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by veeman
those are speaker wires for your speakers which are too expensive anyway (you can get this stuff at home depot and rona for a lot cheaper...copper is copper, don't get hooked by big name wire all they do is put a fancy jacket on the same wire and sell it for 3x-10x the price). For 0 awg (american wire guage) wire go to a welding supply company and buy it...it's plain black, actual 0 awg and cheaper than the fancy stuff but works at least as well. No you don't need a battery at this time, but you may depending on your listening habits...that can be added later if you need it. yw
okay perfect I got some for cheap today at a local welding store.


Where should I get the best box for these 2 alpine type R 12"

This is the box I was looking at because the guy at futureshop told me it would be the best sounding but its really expensive :

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/bassworx-bassworx-12-dual-subwoofer-ported-box-hpr212g-hpr212g/10099648.aspx?path=a033d3af2da8636f1df4399690ccd29 8en02

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now go to a car audio shop and tell the installer you want a custom built box for your subs, explain what you want and he'll quote you a price which should be about the same as that one...but it'll work much better, fit the subs perfectly and the fit the car better...though it probably won't be as flashy. Just as an FYI, the Alpine spec'd boxes work very well in general and get very loud for daily listening, so if the installer doesn't have a lot of experience with these subs, just have him build the box to those specs preferably one box, divided into 2 separate chambers individually ported.

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