Eclipes CD5030 and the included mic
So because the deck doesn't have a picture of a tweeter and a mid, but a picture of 4 speakers means timing alignment wont work for components?
because you don't use the rears allows you to do timing alignment. The deck can do timing alignment for 4 speakers. Last I counted components have 4 speakers; tweeterx2 midbassx2.
Use the front channel for the tweeters, the rear channel for the midbass. Now you can use timing alignment for all 4 speakers from your pair of components.
If you don't know already, you'll need either: Active crossovers, or a passive one that has separate in/output for the tweeter and mid. Also an amp that has 4 channels, each driving a different tweeter and midbass. A mic wont magically make this work. I think you should do some more reading, or try to be clear on what your problem is/what your setup is.
because you don't use the rears allows you to do timing alignment. The deck can do timing alignment for 4 speakers. Last I counted components have 4 speakers; tweeterx2 midbassx2.
Use the front channel for the tweeters, the rear channel for the midbass. Now you can use timing alignment for all 4 speakers from your pair of components.
If you don't know already, you'll need either: Active crossovers, or a passive one that has separate in/output for the tweeter and mid. Also an amp that has 4 channels, each driving a different tweeter and midbass. A mic wont magically make this work. I think you should do some more reading, or try to be clear on what your problem is/what your setup is.
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Actually he is mostly right, I've just never seen it done before. I have a 4-channel amp but its use for my fronts and a woofer.
Right now it seems time alignment isn't possible, Although I don't know what I am missing BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE!
Right now it seems time alignment isn't possible, Although I don't know what I am missing BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE!
I cannot believe you don't READ the manual, it has the ability to T/A all 4 speakers, it can account for the car type and tweeter placement. JUST READ...stop thinking, just do it. The mic you are looking for is called a MCI-100 and can be found on line for $20.00!
BTW the part number is in the manual, also why not call Eclipse tech support?
1-800-421-1996...
3 pages of ****,****...
BTW the part number is in the manual, also why not call Eclipse tech support?
1-800-421-1996...
3 pages of ****,****...
Last edited by Westec; Mar 29, 2011 at 08:27 PM.
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How? And I dont think he does understand
unless he meant something else by this
Plain and simple you cant use timing alignment the way want to. The mic wont do anything for you, that you can't already do. You can do timing alignment for each component (the pair, tweeter + woofer) for the left and right. This will make it so it sounds like the sound is coming from the center of the dash
I don't know what I am missing BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE!
Plain and simple you cant use timing alignment the way want to. The mic wont do anything for you, that you can't already do. You can do timing alignment for each component (the pair, tweeter + woofer) for the left and right. This will make it so it sounds like the sound is coming from the center of the dash
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So because the deck doesn't have a picture of a tweeter and a mid, but a picture of 4 speakers means timing alignment wont work for components?
because you don't use the rears allows you to do timing alignment. The deck can do timing alignment for 4 speakers. Last I counted components have 4 speakers; tweeterx2 midbassx2.
Use the front channel for the tweeters, the rear channel for the midbass. Now you can use timing alignment for all 4 speakers from your pair of components.
If you don't know already, you'll need either: Active crossovers, or a passive one that has separate in/output for the tweeter and mid. Also an amp that has 4 channels, each driving a different tweeter and midbass. A mic wont magically make this work. I think you should do some more reading, or try to be clear on what your problem is/what your setup is.
because you don't use the rears allows you to do timing alignment. The deck can do timing alignment for 4 speakers. Last I counted components have 4 speakers; tweeterx2 midbassx2.
Use the front channel for the tweeters, the rear channel for the midbass. Now you can use timing alignment for all 4 speakers from your pair of components.
If you don't know already, you'll need either: Active crossovers, or a passive one that has separate in/output for the tweeter and mid. Also an amp that has 4 channels, each driving a different tweeter and midbass. A mic wont magically make this work. I think you should do some more reading, or try to be clear on what your problem is/what your setup is.
Would the mid/tweeter be connected directly to the amp and then use the crossovers on the amp?
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Thunder Series 4-Channel Class A/B Car Amplifier
RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 75 watts x 4 chan.
2 ohms: 150 watts x 4 chan.
Bridged, 4 ohms: 300 watts x 2 chan.
Max power output: 1800 watts
Class A/B (Patented Pure N-Channel)
Patented state-of-the-art power supply and output stage
Wired remote bass level control included
LED power (green) and protect (red) indicators
Variable Bass Boost (0 to +12 dB bass boost at 40 Hz)
Soft Start Turn-on
4/3/2 Channel operation
Speaker-level inputs with signal sensing for automatic turn-on
Preamp summed RCA output to daisy chain multiple amps
3-Way System Protection circuitry (thermal, overload, and speaker short protection)
Heavy duty aluminum alloy heatsink for extreme heat dissipation
Silver-plated RCA level inputs
Silver-plated screw terminals
Input sensitivity:
Level: 100mV-5V
Variable high-pass filter (40-350 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
Variable low-pass filter (40-350 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
CEA-2006 compliant amplifier
Frequency response: 20-20,000 Hz
Dimensions: 9-7/8"D x 17-5/8"W x 2-3/8"H
unfortunately it wont work for active. The highpass only goes up to 350. this would destroy tweeters. although in theory you could run the mids straight off of the amp full range and run the other channels of the amp into the crossovers and to the tweeters.
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Ah ok, Thanks for the help dude!
I was messing around with time alignment last night just to hear the differences, I turned the front left to -0.6ms. Now it seems more like "Stereo" Rather than hearing the left side first.
I don't know if I just got lucky or what, But where it's at right now sounds like a home stereo...
I was messing around with time alignment last night just to hear the differences, I turned the front left to -0.6ms. Now it seems more like "Stereo" Rather than hearing the left side first.
I don't know if I just got lucky or what, But where it's at right now sounds like a home stereo...
