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Old 09-04-2008, 02:25 PM
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How do I compare amps?

with the standard now a days, it's easy, amps are all measured (RMS) with 1% THD(distortion)...but...
I have a new amp rated at 70w RMS at 1% THD and an old amp rated at 30w RMS at 0.02%. how to compare????

by the way they are both Kicker, zx700.5 and a Kicker ZR120.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:58 PM
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Forget the THD, just compare RMS, both those amps are a little udnerated anyways.
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:18 AM
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Forget the THD, just compare RMS, both those amps are a little udnerated anyways.
you cannot forget about the THD, it's an important part of the RMS measurment. Just wondering what a ZR120 would be rated at nowaday? with the new standard of 1%?
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:45 AM
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I cannot huh? I haven't seen an amp where that figure came into play. Show me a situation where that would even be relevant? How do you know you can trust it?

I mean, god knows how they came up with the 0.02% in the first place, and we all know that the new standards are a "minimum" and doesn't mean that the amp's ratings are right anyway.

I can and I will forget about that rating
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:17 AM
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with some research, I sorta answered my question.

in 2003 kicker had a kx150.2 rated at 38wX2 RMS at 13.8V and 0.085%THD.
in 2004 kicker had a kx150.2 rated at 60wX2 RMS at 14.4V and 1%THD (with the CAE-2006 standard).

So my 30wX2 is probably more like 50wX2 or so with the CAE-2006 standard.

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Old 09-05-2008, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
Forget the THD, just compare RMS, both those amps are a little udnerated anyways.
So which amp would you buy between a 2003 and 2004 kx150.2?
The one with 38X2w RMS or the one with 60X2w RMS...of course the THD is important!!!
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:49 PM
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Your not getting it.

Same amp different measurement, what does that tell you? The old one was underated, obviously. If you want low low THD on the amp run it at 1\2 it's power, that's what they did with the first specs. BTW they aren't rated at the same voltage, that makes a much bigger diff in rated power.

THD is not constent, it will vary just like power. So if you run either of those amps at half their power you will have the 0.02 THD, if yuo run them both at full power, they will both be around the 1% mark.

Really, THD is meaningless. Just like trying to pic yuor TV by looking at contrast ratio or picking amps with peak watts. They are all meaningless figures.

And I would get the one with the higher rms rating for resale.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:53 PM
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I have to agree with AAAAAAA about his view on THD. Basicly, I would pick more power, and a nice brand name, cause the whole product with better internals is more important, then THD rating, and the louder you push any amp, the more THD it will produce, which you will not hear anyways, unless you have superhuman hearing, the distortion you WILL hear is clipping, when your amp will run out of power.
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I didn't want to start a whole discussion on how THD is important or not...I wanted to know how my Kicker ZR120 (with the CEA-2006 standards) would be rated nowadays, so I could compare my two amps.
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Ok, then just go for the lowest number. Common sense, unless I am missing something again.
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