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Old 07-15-2007, 02:44 PM
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Need it louder

Hi guys, another newbie question. I know a few things about car audio, but I am no where close to calling my self knowledgeable about it. The other day I was pounding the subs a little harder than usual, and I blew the fuses in the amp, replaced them, everything sound fine. Now I thought my subs were playing quite loud, but I was talking to a budy last night, and he has 2 small 12 inch subs, in a ported bass worx box, and the whole cabin in his civic just vibrates, the bass is a lot louder, it sadly dwarfs mine. He said they didn't push anymore than 300RMS. I have 2 15" Kicker CVR's 500 RMS a piece, in a sealed box. A Kenwood 915-D 1000RMS amp, with a true 2 guage power wire running to it, Pioneer 4800 deck, Kenwood 6x9's 120RMS, and infiniti 4' door speakers 35 RMS (Upgrading soon). So basically, I want the full potential out of it, but I have a feeling I'm missing a few things. The treble and mid sound quite well, but there just isn't enough bass anymore...

Thought I'd take a second to tell you sorry for the long read, but I want to make sure it's clear. I currently have no cap in the setup. I do have a 1.5 farad cap available, but I was told by several people I wouldn't really need it. I have a new, decent battery, and a very well grounded ground wire. About half a foot away from the battery, maybe a little more, there is a fuse, it came in the orion install kit. The car I have now is a 92 honda accord EXR, with the stock alternator and wiring all around. Now I was curious to know, if anyone knows how much it would generally cost, to upgrade the alternator wires, and the battery ground wires, beause I think thats half my problem. The next is, I think I need the cap, especally for this much power, so if possible, can you give me detailed directions on how to install it into my system. Also, would I possibly have to upgrade the alternator, in order to help keep the cap charged? Or would upgrading the wires be enough. Would I also need to port the box, in order to make them kick and seem a lot louder? Any help is appreicated, thank you.

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Old 07-15-2007, 03:23 PM
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You didn't say what amps you have for your front speakers?

I have CVR15's, with only 380 wrms on each. but then i have 4 other amps for the 4 other speakers.

I wouldn't expect them to be loud. If you want loud, go for 15L7's with 1000wrms on each. That would be a starter SPL system.

Generally, ported boxes are for loud. Narrowing the freq going to the subs can give the illusion of loud.
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:30 AM
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buddy has a hatchback nuff said
his box is also tuned to more of an spl based output with a rather large port surface area right.
if your in a pissin match with him then ya gotts take those factors into consideration and design a new box ad or make the changes you can afford to help you pwer wire and ground upgrades tuning enclosure sound deadning and car sounddeadning better enclosure lots of options
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Old 07-21-2007, 06:21 PM
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Few things here:
-Hatchback - plays loud
- Ported Box - more effecient so will play louder
- Just cause you have bigger subs doesn't mean they play lounder
- Bigger subs can have heavier moving parts that need more power to get them going and playing loud - IE thick cones vs thin cones - 3 inch voice coils, vs 1 inch voice coils etc
- you didn't actually say what kind of subs and amp your buddy has... so harder to get into that side of it..

- As far as your electrical is concerned do an upgrade to 2gauge or 4 guage (as they are shorter runs anyways) from your neg post on battery to engine/alternator, and from neg post to a good chassis location. Use a conductive grease under the hood to minimize corrosion and help keep the contact point clean etc.. you can get that at good auto parts places and some welding type places I imagine too...

I personally like caps, so grab that, they are easy to put in - do a search on here or google for instructions... or get a good car audio dealer to do it for you, thats why they are there
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