What have you done with changing the deck, what did it effect and are you happy with it?

 

I have a 2000 Z24 and just took out the old deck and bought a wiring harness for a geo tracker and installed my new deck with that. However, you have to tap into a switched wire (I tapped into the wiper fuse, but lots use the big brown wire in the steering column) to connect to the deck though, as the stock wiring hanress does not have a switched wire. You will only, and i repeat WILL ONLY, lose your door chimes and WITH NO OTHER SIDE EFFECTS. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and does not know anything about Cavaliers or Sunfires. 7 flashing airbag lights when the ignition is turned on means everything is working fine ; ).

Check out www.j-body.org and do a search for 2000+ head unit on the audio forum and you will find tonnes of info about the procedure.

And I'm very happy with my deck as well, and no more annoying chimes : ).

[ November 01, 2003, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]

 

The relocation kit was designed as a result of some installer tapping into the air bag wire and setting off this huge rumour that the airbags are run throught he deck.......... This is absolutely not true. It says explicityly in the owners manual that if the the RDS radio is removed and not replaced, that only the chimes will be lost. Take a look at this link and see for yourself. There is a pic of this section of the manual.

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...26#reply_56115

FS and BB are the main shops that promote this crap. And why wouldn't they to be honest. Their installers are paid on commission and want to sell something more expensive. But why buy a useless $100 harness when a simple $10 harness will do the same thing. Plus the T harness is a pain in the *** to run to the back since the wiring is all loomed together and very bulky. Do some research on a website that is DEVOTED to Cavaliers and Sunfires and you will find people who are truly knowledgable about this car.

Those who do not have a 2000+ Cav or Sunfire and have not tried this install are just assuming that this stupid rumour is true. Show me some proof it isn't because I have my car as proof, as well as the manual, as well as thousands of j-body owners who have done this mod with NO PROBLEMS. Show me some schematics and real life problems that have happened as a result of this mod. Good luck though because you won't find any. It is all a big rumour.

And as for problems with GM, they can't decline to perform warranty work unless they can prove this lead to a problem.

Sorry for the rant, and I don't want to sound like I am yelling at you Dukk, so please don't take it that way

 

Duke I realize there is a search and I have already used it thanks
I was hoping to get a reply from someone who has used the harness that has somthing in it so you do not have to relocate the deck but you do not loose your door chimes.

Kool I would normaly just do the geo thing but those chimes save me aleast twice a week when I am half a sleep from leaving my lights on when I get to school.

 

I didn't relize that BB and FS got paid comission. Well at least Best Buy. If you encounter some error codes, Check engine lights, Pending on what they are they can't be reset unless the factory deck or a integration piece of some sort is present in the car. I know cause I have access to a teck II. Might be one reason why these companys stress using the proper way. I am sure the consumer doesn't want to pay a fee every time he has a check engine light on and GM want's the radio back in the car to reset the code.

 

I didn't relize that BB and FS got paid comission. Well at least Best Buy. If you encounter some error codes, Check engine lights, Pending on what they are they can't be reset unless the factory deck or a integration piece of some sort is present in the car. I know cause I have access to a teck II. Might be one reason why these companys stress using the proper way. I am sure the consumer doesn't want to pay a fee every time he has a check engine light on and GM want's the radio back in the car to reset the code. </font>[/QUOTE]Wow, thats funny because my mechanic hooked my car up and there were no error codes.

And Greg, the kit you are talking about includes some relays and wiring to incorporate the chimes back into the system without having to relocate the deck. The kit is fairly expensive though, around the same price as the T harness. I don't know the schematics, but someone posted how to do it yourself with some parts from Radio Shack for like $10 on the JBO website. Buying it as a kit is much easier though.

 

No, when you get certain error codes, not right away but any time after words, they can not be reset unless the factory deck is relocated or the specific interface is used.

 

This is not true because I got a check engine light once after getting an oil change and etc and it was because the mechanic forgot to plug the 02 sensor back in after changing the air filter. I took it back and they found out that was the problem after hooking up the teck II. After plugging the 02 sensor back in their were no more error codes and the check engine light went off.