Are all interconnects created equal?
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Cables are wire..........................copper is copper............certain little thing called the law of physics.............
Do a ABX test BLINDFOLDED and I will bet anyone too that they can't hear the difference.......................
People want to hear a difference cause they thing they should, it's all in your head...................
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Cables are wire..........................copper is copper............certain little thing called the law of physics.............
Do a ABX test BLINDFOLDED and I will bet anyone too that they can't hear the difference.......................
People want to hear a difference cause they thing they should, it's all in your head...................
the ONLY way i've heard any difference between cheap and expensive rca's, are when you install them along side of a bunch of power wires, and induce some interference.
proper installation will yeild better results, than product alone.
proper installation will yeild better results, than product alone.
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I'll bring the Q-Tips . 
OK, here's a simple way to see if interconnects make a difference.
Ideally a Hi-Fi VCR should be used, but in a pinch, your old analog tape recorder will suffice.
Set your recording levels(clean tape heads would be nice), start the recording with a new blank tape (VHS Hi-Fi, or Chrome tape no dolby) using one type of cable, pause the player and tape recording, change the wires, and continue where you left off.
Listen back to the recording, you should be able to notice a subtle difference in recording levels (in some cases) and change in detail/depth.
OK, here's a simple way to see if interconnects make a difference.
Ideally a Hi-Fi VCR should be used, but in a pinch, your old analog tape recorder will suffice.
Set your recording levels(clean tape heads would be nice), start the recording with a new blank tape (VHS Hi-Fi, or Chrome tape no dolby) using one type of cable, pause the player and tape recording, change the wires, and continue where you left off.
Listen back to the recording, you should be able to notice a subtle difference in recording levels (in some cases) and change in detail/depth.
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Originally posted by Eli47:
I'll bring the Q-Tips .
I'll bring the Q-Tips .
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Man...everybody has something good to say.
Some people are sticking their neck out, while others are simply sharing their experience.
The funny thing is, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I just like talking about this stuff now. I see 5 approaces to this topic.
1.) No, it's not possible to have a difference.
2.) In my experience, I haven't experienced a difference.
3.) I've experienced differences, but I can't explain why.
4.) There are differences and I can prove it.
5.) There are differences, and nobody can tell me I'm wrong.
For the record, I have heard the biggest sonic differences in networked cables...and I liked them a lot! That kind of comparison, I admit, is a bit unfair...which I've already mentioned.
But, the blind test that I've mentioned above was with Monster Cable XLN-Pro, and Kimber Cable KCAG. Both were the same length, in a parked car with the ignition off. NO networks.
I may be in the GTA area this summer for an SQ competition and to visit friends. Anyone that would like to try their own cables, my car is setup to do that pretty easily. I think it would be fun, even if I was found to be wrong. Anyone else here got the ***** to admit that?
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Adam
[ January 24, 2005, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: PEI330Ci ]
Some people are sticking their neck out, while others are simply sharing their experience.
The funny thing is, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I just like talking about this stuff now. I see 5 approaces to this topic.
1.) No, it's not possible to have a difference.
2.) In my experience, I haven't experienced a difference.
3.) I've experienced differences, but I can't explain why.
4.) There are differences and I can prove it.
5.) There are differences, and nobody can tell me I'm wrong.
For the record, I have heard the biggest sonic differences in networked cables...and I liked them a lot! That kind of comparison, I admit, is a bit unfair...which I've already mentioned.
But, the blind test that I've mentioned above was with Monster Cable XLN-Pro, and Kimber Cable KCAG. Both were the same length, in a parked car with the ignition off. NO networks.
I may be in the GTA area this summer for an SQ competition and to visit friends. Anyone that would like to try their own cables, my car is setup to do that pretty easily. I think it would be fun, even if I was found to be wrong. Anyone else here got the ***** to admit that?
People are funny. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Adam
[ January 24, 2005, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: PEI330Ci ]
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I have heard differences in Cables. It only happened once. I was listening to a guys car and he said it sounded funny. He was missing the left channel. The center piin of the RCA was broken and he lost that channel. It was a pretty big difference if you ask when we put in a better cable that wasn't cheaply made [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by PEI330Ci:
Man...everybody has something good to say.
Some people are sticking their neck out, while others are simply sharing their experience.
The funny thing is, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I just like talking about this stuff now. I see 5 approaces to this topic.
1.) No, it's not possible to have a difference.
2.) In my experience, I haven't experienced a difference.
3.) I've experienced differences, but I can't explain why.
4.) There are differences and I can prove it.
5.) There are differences, and nobody can tell me I'm wrong.
For the record, I have heard the biggest sonic differences in networked cables...and I liked them a lot! That kind of comparison, I admit, is a bit unfair...which I've already mentioned.
But, the blind test that I've mentioned above was with Monster Cable XLN-Pro, and Kimber Cable KCAG. Both were the same length, in a parked car with the ignition off. NO networks.
I may be in the GTA area this summer for an SQ competition and to visit friends. Anyone that would like to try their own cables, my car is setup to do that pretty easily. I think it would be fun, even if I was found to be wrong. Anyone else here got the ***** to admit that?
People are funny. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Adam
Man...everybody has something good to say.
Some people are sticking their neck out, while others are simply sharing their experience.
The funny thing is, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I just like talking about this stuff now. I see 5 approaces to this topic.
1.) No, it's not possible to have a difference.
2.) In my experience, I haven't experienced a difference.
3.) I've experienced differences, but I can't explain why.
4.) There are differences and I can prove it.
5.) There are differences, and nobody can tell me I'm wrong.
For the record, I have heard the biggest sonic differences in networked cables...and I liked them a lot! That kind of comparison, I admit, is a bit unfair...which I've already mentioned.
But, the blind test that I've mentioned above was with Monster Cable XLN-Pro, and Kimber Cable KCAG. Both were the same length, in a parked car with the ignition off. NO networks.
I may be in the GTA area this summer for an SQ competition and to visit friends. Anyone that would like to try their own cables, my car is setup to do that pretty easily. I think it would be fun, even if I was found to be wrong. Anyone else here got the ***** to admit that?
People are funny. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Adam
I personally have noticed a difference and know how the difference in materials / connectors / design can affect the sound.
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"5.) There are differences, and nobody can tell me I'm wrong."
Everybody can tell me I'm wrong, I have every right to be wrong, just as everyone else does, and it's my duty to defend their right to be wrong .
Look at it this way, what are the differences between all the cars out there, they all get you to the same place, yet the prices are ridiculously worlds apart from a Kia to a Lexus.
If there wasn't a difference, there wouldn't be all the choices we have in brand names.
Everybody can tell me I'm wrong, I have every right to be wrong, just as everyone else does, and it's my duty to defend their right to be wrong
.Look at it this way, what are the differences between all the cars out there, they all get you to the same place, yet the prices are ridiculously worlds apart from a Kia to a Lexus.
If there wasn't a difference, there wouldn't be all the choices we have in brand names.
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the abx test is flawed in its inherent desing in that it asks for personal interpretation in something that is for to individual to make the test remotley accurate. if, like tims says copper is copper, not sure if i agree but thats for another day, what does the use of more exotic materials like silver and such do to rca signal transfer, in other words what happens if you compare apples and oranges
