General Discussion General discussion about all things car audio, from pioneer, orion, alpine and eclipse.

Does Cold degrade speakers?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:16 AM
  #22  
gleepoy's Avatar
50 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 399
Originally Posted by SPLN00B2
Thats because your impedance drops to like nothing when your coils are cold.
I think it's more so that the peak in impedance drops to nothing.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:45 AM
  #23  
infared_vision's Avatar
50 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 66
Good Post.

I've always had my system in my car during the winter...never really pounded it...but played it with no problems **knock on wood**

just h8t when the factory head unit dims.

damn artic air
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:27 AM
  #24  
veeman's Avatar
2000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,455
21 years of high end car audio through out winter with not a problem...just use your brain a little and most things will work fine!!
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:34 PM
  #25  
scuba789's Avatar
50 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 297
I let my subs/speakers warm up at a low volume until my faceplate display warms up. Then I let her rip. I try to warm up the suspension and cones a bit so they aren't so brittle.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:46 PM
  #26  
Haunz's Avatar
4000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,218
Originally Posted by gleepoy
Actually no, but John Zaph (Zaph Audio) did.

I have to honestly say I'm shocked. ABX test? We're not talking about trying to find pixie dust differences in wire here. Personally, the difference is so huge that I really don't think an ABX listening test would be warranted.

For me, the biggest difference is in my sub. When I first turn my car on (in this weather, -15C) my sub has very little output. Same goes for my midbass. They sound much different after the interior of my car warms up.
I hope you realize how much you need to alter a speaker before the difference is audible... ie less then 1db of difference in freq response will not be audible... and it will definatly take 2-3 db before its plainly audible....

To illustrate I would point out that manufacturing variences commonly cause two speakers to have a paramater like vas that is off by 20% or more... is that audible ? no. You are probably looking at less then .5db of variation between the speakers.... And having seen temperature coeffients for the spring constants of various materials before, Iam still unconvinced there will be some huge difference in something like vas that will cause some blatently obvious change in sound even at -20.... (ie the speaker now sounds like garbage)

As far as ABX testing goes its 100% necassary for any fair A to B listening compairson because our ears are poor scientific instruments and are heavilly biased by our brains... but maybe you have never heard someone talk about the profound difference in sound between amplifiers... or heard the story of the audiophile installer who secretly had a 4" hole cut into his woofer box and didn't notice...
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:32 PM
  #27  
Joshv06's Avatar
50 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 113
I usually play my system at a lower volume until my car warms up before i turn it up and ive had no problems, common sense goes a long way.. I dont imagine the cold would degrade speakers... think about it; most older cars still have working stock speakers.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:58 PM
  #28  
worldind's Avatar
1000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,029
I can't say I can hear a distinct change in sound when listening in pretty cold weather, except for the obvious fact that output is much less from a cold and sluggish sub.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:55 PM
  #29  
veeman's Avatar
2000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,455
ask all the guys with trunk mounted subs...i doubt that the subs ever get warm in the winter!! In fact I know my trunk in the last car I had stayed cold all winter because I had a leaky trunk gasket and the whole spare tire well was frozen until spring.

Last edited by veeman; Feb 7, 2007 at 09:58 PM.
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:29 PM
  #30  
wiltshire559's Avatar
500 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 774
kinda scary that the most exspensive part of my system is in my trunk where there is no heat,

once had a rubber surround on a sub break after the winter



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:01 PM.