Fosgate amp reissue....
Originally posted by loudtdi:
I know a current 50 watt amp cannot do what a Punch 45 did....that amp today would be rated at something like 125 by 2.
The old amps were so under rated....
The current amps although under rated some do not make 3 or 4 times their rated power....
As far as what current amps can do, I know DB Don had a Rockford 301M that he ran at I believe 1 ohm and something crazy like 500 watts output.
It would be great if Don can verify these figures.
Kevin
I know a current 50 watt amp cannot do what a Punch 45 did....that amp today would be rated at something like 125 by 2.
The old amps were so under rated....
The current amps although under rated some do not make 3 or 4 times their rated power....
As far as what current amps can do, I know DB Don had a Rockford 301M that he ran at I believe 1 ohm and something crazy like 500 watts output.
It would be great if Don can verify these figures.
Kevin
Didn't he have to modify the 301M to make it do 1 ohm? or did he just swap fuses?
I've owned all the original Rockfords,p-45,p-75 and the p-150, back in the day. I own current punch series p-6001 and p-8004 amps and I have to say that while the original stuff is what got me hooked on this car audio hobby, They did not sound better than the new amps. They were very versatile but not more than todays versions. Any thing that I could have done with those old amps I can still do today with my new ones. I remember people saying you could load an old p-45 down to .5 ohm and stuff like that, Tried it...It just went into protection just like my current amp would. I can hook up 20 drivers to my new amp if I keep the impedance within range, just like the guys did back in the mid to late 80's. It's not magic, just math.
Tyler = NooB 
Tyler, listen to more than one vehicle before making your decisions. That's sort of like picking the first fat chick that you see when around the corner is the slim version of the same one.
Old Rockford schools new Rockford, end of story.
Tyler, listen to more than one vehicle before making your decisions. That's sort of like picking the first fat chick that you see when around the corner is the slim version of the same one.Old Rockford schools new Rockford, end of story.
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New Rockford is unfortunate in that they are listing the "peak power" on their punch stuff.
As for their old stuff, I'm guessing it was rated as a true watt (into an 8 ohm load) and I'm guessing they did not use 14.4 as their power voltage, hence them being even more underratted than the current which rates the watt into a 4 ohm load at 14.4v.
As for their old stuff, I'm guessing it was rated as a true watt (into an 8 ohm load) and I'm guessing they did not use 14.4 as their power voltage, hence them being even more underratted than the current which rates the watt into a 4 ohm load at 14.4v.
My basis on this comes from the stack of warranty claims I have to show the frequency of repair old vs. new and the issues that arise from it. What is your views of this based on? I like Rockford, they have built great gear over the years.
And Tyler, please don't tell me that fat chicks need lovin as well. [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
And Tyler, please don't tell me that fat chicks need lovin as well. [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
Originally posted by MR2NR:
My basis on this comes from the stack of warranty claims I have to show the frequency of repair old vs. new and the issues that arise from it. What is your views of this based on? I like Rockford, they have built great gear over the years.
And Tyler, please don't tell me that fat chicks need lovin as well. [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
My basis on this comes from the stack of warranty claims I have to show the frequency of repair old vs. new and the issues that arise from it. What is your views of this based on? I like Rockford, they have built great gear over the years.
And Tyler, please don't tell me that fat chicks need lovin as well. [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
