lower price?
03-26-2007, 02:42 PM
#21
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Rob does tend to go on about his nuts.. 
I don't think Rob overreacted or even reacted poorly or incorrectly. In fact, he even prefaced his first post stating that this was from a retailers point of view:
ANd I even agree with the general intent of his post which is odd considering I work (occasionally) for the Dark Side 
I don't think Rob overreacted or even reacted poorly or incorrectly. In fact, he even prefaced his first post stating that this was from a retailers point of view:
No offence intended, but that is a total kick in the nuts to the industry members here on the forum that may have the experience that you need.
03-26-2007, 04:27 PM
#23
I support the dealers on this one personally.
MY only point of view is that if you're getting into car audio and the first thing you want to do is scrimp to save $14.99 on a speaker, you're off to the WRONG start.
Set your budget buy good equipment and you'll get a lot further than trying to save $10 on mediocre equipment and wanting to replace it 6 months later.
MY only point of view is that if you're getting into car audio and the first thing you want to do is scrimp to save $14.99 on a speaker, you're off to the WRONG start.
Set your budget buy good equipment and you'll get a lot further than trying to save $10 on mediocre equipment and wanting to replace it 6 months later.
03-26-2007, 04:56 PM
#24
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One - I would like to personally apologize to you for your thread being hijacked. After reading through the entire thread, not one person sent you a legitimate anwser to your question, which IMO is what this forum is all about.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
03-26-2007, 05:44 PM
#25
I gotta agree with reider on this one.
The original poster didn't come here for venders to sell him their stuff. He came here for advice.
I would have advised him to buy from a local aduio shop, who can help with selection and setup, but all you guys jumped all over, accussed and offended.
I thought this forum was for audio entusiasts to help each other.
I am tired of all you vendor guys trying to sell your stuff to anyone who asks a question.
The original poster didn't come here for venders to sell him their stuff. He came here for advice.
I would have advised him to buy from a local aduio shop, who can help with selection and setup, but all you guys jumped all over, accussed and offended.
I thought this forum was for audio entusiasts to help each other.
I am tired of all you vendor guys trying to sell your stuff to anyone who asks a question.
03-26-2007, 06:53 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Reider
One - I would like to personally apologize to you for your thread being hijacked. After reading through the entire thread, not one person sent you a legitimate anwser to your question, which IMO is what this forum is all about.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
I come back a day later and I find my post has created three pages, many of which are fairly negitive to myself.
Honestly, I am new here, and I had no idea that my question would spark such debate! I in no way wrote that post to offend anyone in anyway, or somehow put vendors down. I was simply just asking (seeing as there are many people here who are much more intune to the car audio industry then myself) if anyone had previously seen a lower price. I'm not asking you to go out and hunt around for it, I was simply asking had anyone come across a website recently.
Also, Like Reider said, I had no clue what so ever that vendors where present on these forums. I simply thought that it was a group of car audio entusiasts, and I thought who better to ask my questions (As I'm fairly new to the whole car audio thing) to people like everyone here.
Now, A big question raised is why the hell am I buying from best buy?
Honestly, it was the last place I went to. I shoped at every car audio store in my city (All localy owned) I would much rather buying from a localy owned store then a big box 'all for the profit store.' But I found that the local stores screwed me around so much it was frustrating. The guy would give me a decent deal on some subs, head units, amps, the works. Giving me a 'good price' but when I went to another store and asked there opinion on what they thought of the pricing they laughed in my face and said I was being charged way to much etc etc (I relise that they are compentitors, so I dident expect them to say good things about what the 'other store' was giving me) But they would go to the point of insulting me for ever going to that store in the first place. It was redicoulious! I have many storys of this. I just couldent get the right service from anyone! Hopefully, If I do look localy again I will be able to get YOUR opionion on what they are selling me, etc etc with out being flamed for three pages! (fingers crossed!) Anyways, it got to the point where I walked into best buy, a non-commission seller and they dident hassle me or pessure me into one peticular item, It was much more relaxed! Like I said in my first post I do work in retail and In a commission enviroment, so I know what its like from a sales person point of view, but I would never go to the limites they went to with me. I am concitering going back to the localy owned guys, hopefully I can get somthing out of it.
Again, Sorry for any hard feelings I have caused between members. Hopefully those members willing to help myself out will post, and those who only want to flame myself or others will move to another thread.
Again, Thanks! (and sorry!)
03-26-2007, 06:59 PM
#27
Originally Posted by one
Yikes!
I come back a day later and I find my post has created three pages, many of which are fairly negitive to myself.
Honestly, I am new here, and I had no idea that my question would spark such debate! I in no way wrote that post to offend anyone in anyway, or somehow put vendors down. I was simply just asking (seeing as there are many people here who are much more intune to the car audio industry then myself) if anyone had previously seen a lower price. I'm not asking you to go out and hunt around for it, I was simply asking had anyone come across a website recently.
Also, Like Reider said, I had no clue what so ever that vendors where present on these forums. I simply thought that it was a group of car audio entusiasts, and I thought who better to ask my questions (As I'm fairly new to the whole car audio thing) to people like everyone here.
Now, A big question raised is why the hell am I buying from best buy?
Honestly, it was the last place I went to. I shoped at every car audio store in my city (All localy owned) I would much rather buying from a localy owned store then a big box 'all for the profit store.' But I found that the local stores screwed me around so much it was frustrating. The guy would give me a decent deal on some subs, head units, amps, the works. Giving me a 'good price' but when I went to another store and asked there opinion on what they thought of the pricing they laughed in my face and said I was being charged way to much etc etc (I relise that they are compentitors, so I dident expect them to say good things about what the 'other store' was giving me) But they would go to the point of insulting me for ever going to that store in the first place. It was redicoulious! I have many storys of this. I just couldent get the right service from anyone! Hopefully, If I do look localy again I will be able to get YOUR opionion on what they are selling me, etc etc with out being flamed for three pages! (fingers crossed!) Anyways, it got to the point where I walked into best buy, a non-commission seller and they dident hassle me or pessure me into one peticular item, It was much more relaxed! Like I said in my first post I do work in retail and In a commission enviroment, so I know what its like from a sales person point of view, but I would never go to the limites they went to with me. I am concitering going back to the localy owned guys, hopefully I can get somthing out of it.
Again, Sorry for any hard feelings I have caused between members. Hopefully those members willing to help myself out will post, and those who only want to flame myself or others will move to another thread.
Again, Thanks! (and sorry!)
I come back a day later and I find my post has created three pages, many of which are fairly negitive to myself.
Honestly, I am new here, and I had no idea that my question would spark such debate! I in no way wrote that post to offend anyone in anyway, or somehow put vendors down. I was simply just asking (seeing as there are many people here who are much more intune to the car audio industry then myself) if anyone had previously seen a lower price. I'm not asking you to go out and hunt around for it, I was simply asking had anyone come across a website recently.
Also, Like Reider said, I had no clue what so ever that vendors where present on these forums. I simply thought that it was a group of car audio entusiasts, and I thought who better to ask my questions (As I'm fairly new to the whole car audio thing) to people like everyone here.
Now, A big question raised is why the hell am I buying from best buy?
Honestly, it was the last place I went to. I shoped at every car audio store in my city (All localy owned) I would much rather buying from a localy owned store then a big box 'all for the profit store.' But I found that the local stores screwed me around so much it was frustrating. The guy would give me a decent deal on some subs, head units, amps, the works. Giving me a 'good price' but when I went to another store and asked there opinion on what they thought of the pricing they laughed in my face and said I was being charged way to much etc etc (I relise that they are compentitors, so I dident expect them to say good things about what the 'other store' was giving me) But they would go to the point of insulting me for ever going to that store in the first place. It was redicoulious! I have many storys of this. I just couldent get the right service from anyone! Hopefully, If I do look localy again I will be able to get YOUR opionion on what they are selling me, etc etc with out being flamed for three pages! (fingers crossed!) Anyways, it got to the point where I walked into best buy, a non-commission seller and they dident hassle me or pessure me into one peticular item, It was much more relaxed! Like I said in my first post I do work in retail and In a commission enviroment, so I know what its like from a sales person point of view, but I would never go to the limites they went to with me. I am concitering going back to the localy owned guys, hopefully I can get somthing out of it.
Again, Sorry for any hard feelings I have caused between members. Hopefully those members willing to help myself out will post, and those who only want to flame myself or others will move to another thread.
Again, Thanks! (and sorry!)
Shops that I have been at, even though I was getting the great deals, and what not, it really turned me off when they would joke about hosing somebody for an alarm or something like that. Again I go back to my used car salesmen analogy for car stereo shops. Not saying they are all like that, but more than a few are.
03-26-2007, 07:31 PM
#28
The nice thing about a debate is that it airs all sides. I have no issues with members expressing their opinions. I would also like to point out that at no time had I ever solicited you for business as well. You as a customer are free to choose from whomever you would like to do business with. There are many people to turn to for answers to your questions, myself being one of them. Welcome to the site and I for one, hope you stay and continue to learn.
03-26-2007, 08:28 PM
#29
Originally Posted by Reider
One - I would like to personally apologize to you for your thread being hijacked. After reading through the entire thread, not one person sent you a legitimate anwser to your question, which IMO is what this forum is all about.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
Drew - You are bang on.
a) One isn't looking for a company to give him a quote on a lower price so he can go out and get a better price at best buy. He simply asked if anyone has seen a better deal elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with this and I am embarassed as a CCA member that the vultures jumped on One.
b) One obviously had NO clue that vendors reside here and are available to help and sell products to meet members' needs. If he had known, perhaps he would have asked if anyone could sell him a better sub for the price BB was selling that sub or cheaper.
MR2NR - Sour grapes bud. Total over-reaction on your part. You ask him why you should provide him or others help in the future because you are a nice guy, but in reality you ignored the fact that he likely didn't know that vendors resided here. What makes you think he will want to shop from CCA vendors in the future knowing that they overract and pounce on innocent customers who are asking for legitimate & legal information?? Just some food for thought.
This is just my guess, but imo your business isn't successful for being sour to customers or to potential customers, it's probably successful because you do things right and make sure the customer is happy at the end of the day. Remember, it's not just him, but other members. Who's going to want to deal with you after seeing you sucking on sour grapes over ONE customer that's likely nowhere near Courtenay BC? That's an extremely poor attitude to have as a businessman IMO.
A Message to Everyone - I reccomend purchasing equiptment from 100% Canadian car audio dealers (you can find some right on this site). Those big box stores don't care about you or what you're putting in your car, they only care about the bottom line (profit). On top of it all, they aren't truly Canadian, they just drop stores in Canada. Whereas IMO, 100% Canadian dealers take pride in their businesses for the most part (will go out of their way for you/make things right if they mess up), have knowledge and experience that big box stores employee's don't have, and surprisingly will sometimes even give you a cheaper price on a better product than one found in box stores.
03-26-2007, 09:23 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by Drew
And now this would be one of the "many reasons" that people buy car audio equipment from BB that I referenced to earlier.
Shops that I have been at, even though I was getting the great deals, and what not, it really turned me off when they would joke about hosing somebody for an alarm or something like that. Again I go back to my used car salesmen analogy for car stereo shops. Not saying they are all like that, but more than a few are.
Shops that I have been at, even though I was getting the great deals, and what not, it really turned me off when they would joke about hosing somebody for an alarm or something like that. Again I go back to my used car salesmen analogy for car stereo shops. Not saying they are all like that, but more than a few are.
Wow , I had better just shut the doors and turn out the lights . My shop is both a small car audio shop and a used car lot . I MUST BE THE BIGGEST CROOK ON THE PLANET . LOL . The fact of the matter is , yes he can buy from wherever he wants to , save a buck (maybe) at the big box store but dont get the after sale service . That will always be the saga . Hey one , i will let you in on a little secret , sometimes , if you build a relationship with your small car audio store you will get the best price and best service . What a novel idea !!!
