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03-26-2007, 09:30 PM
#31
Originally Posted by thecarguy
Wow , I had better just shut the doors and turn out the lights . My shop is both a small car audio shop and a used car lot . I MUST BE THE BIGGEST CROOK ON THE PLANET . LOL . The fact of the matter is , yes he can buy from wherever he wants to , save a buck (maybe) at the big box store but dont get the after sale service . That will always be the saga . Hey one , i will let you in on a little secret , sometimes , if you build a relationship with your small car audio store you will get the best price and best service . What a novel idea !!!
03-26-2007, 09:50 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by Drew
Ouch. You will notice I said reputation (deserved or not).
No worries man , I have been a used car salesman long enough to know the reputation that we all have . Both our car lot and our audio department have excellent reputations in our community because we are a small town store that treats our customers with the same respect that we expect from the small local stores in our community that we shop at . I was only adding a little homour to this post that has obviously gone horribly awry . Always remember that you get what you pay for , and that goes for service as well as the almighty "lowest price " I will gladly support the stores that will be there after the sale to help me in the future , whether that is for another purchase or for some service minded issue .
03-27-2007, 02:44 AM
#33
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Posts: 164
Originally Posted by 04silvltr3
Even though you make a very good point, the bolded part above shows that you know nothing about rob and how he handles business. I realize this issue has been debated to death but your pointed out the lines you feel he crossed by crossing them yourself. Do i think there was something wrong with what he asked? NO, but you need to understand where honest authorized vendors like rob are coming from. One, go buy the sub, is a month of looking for a better price worth saving $20? I dont think so.
It is my opinion that some people in this thread (including Rob - yes he is human and makes mistakes) are sucking on sour grapes, which will not accomplish anything positive (for CCA or business). After being a member here for nearly 4 years (I obviously read more than post), I think it's sad that vendors are turning into vultures, such that new members, after one post, are getting shredded to bits after posting a legitimate / legal question, which was not intended to offend anybody, including canadian owned car audio dealers.
I do know where honest authorized (Canadian) vendors come from. I have and ONLY deal with them. And have for about 8 or 9 years now. The reason I only deal with them is because I understand their situation. You won't find anything in my car that is purchased from a non-Canadian owned authorized dealer. The reason why I support Canadian owned authorized dealers and not big american box stores is because I appreciate the knowledge and genuine service I receive from these companies.
The fact that I am in tune with the nature of "one's" post and the situation of authorized canadian dealers is the reason why I was quickly able to identify the fact that Rob and others were totally out of line for attacking "One."
It won't change my views, I am just saying that Robs behavior is not good for his business. That's just my opinion, maybe others disagree and so be it. Regardless of this thread, I will still support canadian authorized dealers in the future.
I think I am quite qualified to "understand" (through university education and experience from talking with locally owned businesses) the dynamics of our national economic state and the challenges faced by our canadian (capitalist) class/companies (or what's left of it/them). I think the fact that they have to fight tooth and nail for business speaks volume about the challenges they face in competing with large multinational box stores. This really isn't rocket science and it certainly isn't new. The free trade agreements allow for this competition.
And FYI, I have in the past tried to deal with Rob so I do have first hand experience in that regard. In the future I suggest you do your research before drawing broad conclusions about myself or others for that matter because not doing so just makes you look silly.
Last edited by Reider; 03-27-2007 at 02:49 AM.
03-27-2007, 09:43 AM
#34
Originally Posted by Reider
I have been a member here for nearly 4 years now. Quite a contrast from your 13 months. I would be the first one to say that from what I know and have read, Rob is a nice guy, funny, and is often willing to go out of his way to get a deal done/make the customer happy.
It is my opinion that some people in this thread (including Rob - yes he is human and makes mistakes) are sucking on sour grapes, which will not accomplish anything positive (for CCA or business). After being a member here for nearly 4 years (I obviously read more than post), I think it's sad that vendors are turning into vultures, such that new members, after one post, are getting shredded to bits after posting a legitimate / legal question, which was not intended to offend anybody, including canadian owned car audio dealers.
I do know where honest authorized (Canadian) vendors come from. I have and ONLY deal with them. And have for about 8 or 9 years now. The reason I only deal with them is because I understand their situation. You won't find anything in my car that is purchased from a non-Canadian owned authorized dealer. The reason why I support Canadian owned authorized dealers and not big american box stores is because I appreciate the knowledge and genuine service I receive from these companies.
The fact that I am in tune with the nature of "one's" post and the situation of authorized canadian dealers is the reason why I was quickly able to identify the fact that Rob and others were totally out of line for attacking "One."
It won't change my views, I am just saying that Robs behavior is not good for his business. That's just my opinion, maybe others disagree and so be it. Regardless of this thread, I will still support canadian authorized dealers in the future.
I think I am quite qualified to "understand" (through university education and experience from talking with locally owned businesses) the dynamics of our national economic state and the challenges faced by our canadian (capitalist) class/companies (or what's left of it/them). I think the fact that they have to fight tooth and nail for business speaks volume about the challenges they face in competing with large multinational box stores. This really isn't rocket science and it certainly isn't new. The free trade agreements allow for this competition.
And FYI, I have in the past tried to deal with Rob so I do have first hand experience in that regard. In the future I suggest you do your research before drawing broad conclusions about myself or others for that matter because not doing so just makes you look silly.
It is my opinion that some people in this thread (including Rob - yes he is human and makes mistakes) are sucking on sour grapes, which will not accomplish anything positive (for CCA or business). After being a member here for nearly 4 years (I obviously read more than post), I think it's sad that vendors are turning into vultures, such that new members, after one post, are getting shredded to bits after posting a legitimate / legal question, which was not intended to offend anybody, including canadian owned car audio dealers.
I do know where honest authorized (Canadian) vendors come from. I have and ONLY deal with them. And have for about 8 or 9 years now. The reason I only deal with them is because I understand their situation. You won't find anything in my car that is purchased from a non-Canadian owned authorized dealer. The reason why I support Canadian owned authorized dealers and not big american box stores is because I appreciate the knowledge and genuine service I receive from these companies.
The fact that I am in tune with the nature of "one's" post and the situation of authorized canadian dealers is the reason why I was quickly able to identify the fact that Rob and others were totally out of line for attacking "One."
It won't change my views, I am just saying that Robs behavior is not good for his business. That's just my opinion, maybe others disagree and so be it. Regardless of this thread, I will still support canadian authorized dealers in the future.
I think I am quite qualified to "understand" (through university education and experience from talking with locally owned businesses) the dynamics of our national economic state and the challenges faced by our canadian (capitalist) class/companies (or what's left of it/them). I think the fact that they have to fight tooth and nail for business speaks volume about the challenges they face in competing with large multinational box stores. This really isn't rocket science and it certainly isn't new. The free trade agreements allow for this competition.
And FYI, I have in the past tried to deal with Rob so I do have first hand experience in that regard. In the future I suggest you do your research before drawing broad conclusions about myself or others for that matter because not doing so just makes you look silly.
Last edited by 04silvltr3; 03-27-2007 at 09:46 AM.
03-27-2007, 07:59 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by 04silvltr3
Do my research? I can throw out random qualifications for myself ^ if you want. Everyone has there own opinion, you have yours, i have mine. Just FYI, our vendors here pay fees so why shouldnt they be able to offer someone there product, usually at a great price with great service. However, i also do see your view on this but i can honestly say i have a different one. Either way, this is nothing personal.
In fact, that's what they pay their vendor fee's for. That's all fine and dandy and imo isn't even the issue. The issue is vendors turning into vultures and ripping apart newbies for asking legitimate questions. That imo is over the line and that was the issue in this thread.
If you cannot see the difference between vendors ripping people for asking a legitimate question and vendors being nice and offering help/support/products for a good price, then I truly feel sorry for you. Cheers.
03-27-2007, 09:09 PM
#36
Reider, I am going to clear my views to you so that you are crystal clear on how I read his post. As a matter of fact, (no disrespect "one"), here is the post without the clutter that I will put into point form.
From a industry member standpoint, the facts speak for themself. I base my post on the FACTS above and I don't think you are going to find many if any industry members that will not disagree.
Facts are based on his post, that he wanted someone to provide to him a lower price on something so that he in turn could go back to BB and purchase it there to save money. Facts are that a CANADIAN BUSINESS is the only person that can give him a lower quote. Name me one Canadian business that is knowingly going to give someone a good price on something to have that person take off and purchase it somewhere else. Because I am a vendor, I am not allowed to have a opinion and I must be "sour"? I have a opinion and I expressed it.
Granted that "one" may not have known there were vendors on the site here to help him in a way that he could not find at home and maybe my post was a harsh wakeup call to reality that he realized. He wrote a nice apology to all, this tells me that he does infact realize the error in his post. Again, and "one" please respond if you like, I have not in any way solicited this customer at all, perhaps he might let us know who has.
To characterize the vendors as "vultures" is just plain wrong. We are doing our job. Are we "vultures" when people ask for help in any way shape or form then as well? Perhaps a post based on what is the right size box for my sub, this makes us a vulture for responding to it? Or "Reider" is it in your opinion that we are vultures for standing up for something that we not only pay this great site for to have the ability to be a vendor, but for also putting hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line to be a Canadian business.
Reider, if you do not like seeing the "vultures" on the site, I encourage you to donate to it so that you don't have to see our names here on the site. It seems you have a real issue with the vendors, me in particular for some reason. I know that I am not going to be able to please everyone and that is what having a choice of vendors is all about. I am a person at the end of the day and if you think of me as "sour" and want to tell the world that I am, so be it. I know that there are many others on the site that think the exact opposite. Am I going to continue in life worried about what you think of me, not a chance. Am I going to continue to do things the way that I am entitled to, you bet. If you don't like it, so be it.
Originally Posted by one
Hey Everybody,
(1) Infact I plan on buying from best buy.
(2) Anyways, Im looking into buying the JBL 12" Subwoofer (GTO1202D) Best buy is selling it for $199.99.
(3) Now I know there are better prices out there for this sub, and best buy has the 'price gaurentee'
(4) [I work in retail aswell, so I know the ins and outs]
(5) However, best buy says:
(6) Has anybody here seen a lower price on this sub from an 'authorised canadian dealer'?
(1) Infact I plan on buying from best buy.
(2) Anyways, Im looking into buying the JBL 12" Subwoofer (GTO1202D) Best buy is selling it for $199.99.
(3) Now I know there are better prices out there for this sub, and best buy has the 'price gaurentee'
(4) [I work in retail aswell, so I know the ins and outs]
(5) However, best buy says:
(6) Has anybody here seen a lower price on this sub from an 'authorised canadian dealer'?
Facts are based on his post, that he wanted someone to provide to him a lower price on something so that he in turn could go back to BB and purchase it there to save money. Facts are that a CANADIAN BUSINESS is the only person that can give him a lower quote. Name me one Canadian business that is knowingly going to give someone a good price on something to have that person take off and purchase it somewhere else. Because I am a vendor, I am not allowed to have a opinion and I must be "sour"? I have a opinion and I expressed it.
Granted that "one" may not have known there were vendors on the site here to help him in a way that he could not find at home and maybe my post was a harsh wakeup call to reality that he realized. He wrote a nice apology to all, this tells me that he does infact realize the error in his post. Again, and "one" please respond if you like, I have not in any way solicited this customer at all, perhaps he might let us know who has.
To characterize the vendors as "vultures" is just plain wrong. We are doing our job. Are we "vultures" when people ask for help in any way shape or form then as well? Perhaps a post based on what is the right size box for my sub, this makes us a vulture for responding to it? Or "Reider" is it in your opinion that we are vultures for standing up for something that we not only pay this great site for to have the ability to be a vendor, but for also putting hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line to be a Canadian business.
Reider, if you do not like seeing the "vultures" on the site, I encourage you to donate to it so that you don't have to see our names here on the site. It seems you have a real issue with the vendors, me in particular for some reason. I know that I am not going to be able to please everyone and that is what having a choice of vendors is all about. I am a person at the end of the day and if you think of me as "sour" and want to tell the world that I am, so be it. I know that there are many others on the site that think the exact opposite. Am I going to continue in life worried about what you think of me, not a chance. Am I going to continue to do things the way that I am entitled to, you bet. If you don't like it, so be it.
03-27-2007, 09:21 PM
#37
I totally agree with Rob, I read it as that he wants a lower price so he can goto the big box store and get a cheaper price
I also know that when looking around you see prices then goto a store showing the lower advertised price to see if you can get it lower but you don't flat out ask another for a price so you can get it cheaper somewhere else that is just plain wrong.
I also know that when looking around you see prices then goto a store showing the lower advertised price to see if you can get it lower but you don't flat out ask another for a price so you can get it cheaper somewhere else that is just plain wrong.
03-27-2007, 09:39 PM
#38
i think it was a good question
sad answers
i think the vendors would have PM'ed him with a deal or two but something he could not go to BB with
it is nice to know that you are not getting F'ed over when you get things.
i do see where someone said if you are trying to save $10 then you need to rethink what you are doing (i can see where he was going with that )
sad answers
i think the vendors would have PM'ed him with a deal or two but something he could not go to BB with
it is nice to know that you are not getting F'ed over when you get things.
i do see where someone said if you are trying to save $10 then you need to rethink what you are doing (i can see where he was going with that )
03-27-2007, 09:57 PM
#39
Kevin, let me ask you this. Is the poster's right to come to the forum and post a question any less than, greater than or equal to my right to post a response to that question? Am I as a individual not allowed to make my opinion known just because it says I am a vendor yet any member of the public can? That is why I referred to it as a industry standpoint from right out of the gate. The poster is old enough to be able to read and write in the same language, use a computer, find a forum and he / she is also smart enough to know how their comments can be read. Again, no offence to "one", he / she has made their peace here on the forum.
03-27-2007, 10:33 PM
#40
Originally Posted by one
Again, Sorry for any hard feelings I have caused between members. Hopefully those members willing to help myself out will post, and those who only want to flame myself or others will move to another thread.
Again, Thanks! (and sorry!)
After the first page, i can say that its a shame some new guy gets hammered with a bunch of BS replies.
This site is about CAR AUDIO. Car Audio is sold in a ton of places other than shops, including BB. He was asking price, not 1 vendor needed to chime in.
If no one had an answer for him, they should have kept their noses out of it. People are quick to forget how this is about the community. This site, is here for the car audio enthusiast, not "who can we get to my shop today".
I am all for the vendors getting a chance of picking up a customer, but don't lynch people for asking a question, its so lame!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyways, i apologize on behalf of Canadian Car Audio, i believe it really is a shame that crap like this is posted. Feel free to start a new thread.
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