Shawnlh

I have a set of Orion XBR 6.5" mid bass speakers installed in the doors. I have an Orion 200.4 amp bridged and running the speakers in stereo. (I have used the Orion amp to run other speakers and it puts out quite well.) I have the xover set so they run between 50-250 Hz. My problem is that I cannot get any volume out of them before they start to clip. I have ran them on there own and the volume level that I can get before they clip is minimal at best. They are basicly useless because the rest of the system completely over powers them. What can I do. Please advise [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Haunz

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If the amp is putting out a distorted signal at moderate power levels you should make sure it has solid power connections and heavy enough power/ground wire.. its also a good idea to go over speaker and wire connections looking for bad connetions or shorts..


If the speakers just arnt capable of getting loud at midbass frequencies (and are properly installed) then its time to look for some new speakers....

One possible problem with your install is that the speakers are just stuffed into the door with little consideration for sealing the back wave from the front and a good portion of your accoustical output is just being cancelled..

^that is definatly not an uncommon problem with door mounted speakers..

Shawnlh

How could I seal the speakers in the doors?? That's the only solution I can find with what you have listed as problems. Other than them just being crap speakers (I thought Orion made decent stuff??)

Haunz

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Most people will apply sound deadening matt to the door making sure one side is sealed from the other. Might also want to make sure the speaker is able to fire properly through the factory grill. A 6.5 in a 4x6 location behind a door skin isnt very ideal, even for midbass...

loudtdi

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Sealing the speakers to the door panel will help things....it will act like a gasket as well as stop any resonances created by the driver.

You will want to make the 'baffle' as stiff and as sealed as possible. If the driver is mounted behind the door panel, you may want to apply some sound deadening material to the actual door panel as well. I have done this with good results.

Phase is easy to check with a 9 volt battery at your amp end.

I would also check the signal from the deck....If you are feeding that amp a crap signal it will only reproduce it.

Kevin

Shawnlh

Thanks for all your help guys. But, the doors are completely covered in dynamat, there is little excersion before clipping, they are mounted correctly, and I do have a seal between the panel and the door. I'm stumped, that's why I asked. Maybe the speakers are garbage, I don't know?!?!?

Ramit-1500

Its sounds like installation is'ent the problem.
I would have to agree with some of the other replies that phase or signal could be the problem.
First thing I would do is re set all my gains from front to back. Subs last.First bring up fronts to max with out cliping or distortion,then bring the mid bass up to those fronts. That should make music! Continue with the rears and subs if applicable.
If you do that and still are unhappy then try an additional mid bass preferably matching.
Orion always made great mid bass from my experiance.
Contact a shop locally if you don't know how to adjust your gains properly .this is important for the over all performance of your system
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