Kyle_H

I know wattage doesn't always equal loud or quality, I just want to make sure sub wattage doesn't equal can't hear mids. lol

Kyle_H

Also, do mids need boxes like subs do?

n0catchyname

If you are only running 500W in a sealed box, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

If you think about it, you have 2 midbass @ 75W each = 150W + tweets @ 25W each =200W total speaker output and that's only one set of components. Add another set of two-ways at 75-100W/each and your running 350-400W against 500W sub power. If you blasted that, you might want more sub to keep up to your highs.

Kyle_H

500W in a bandpass but yeah...so basically it should be okay once it's all together

Kyle_H

so what's the difference between a speaker and a midbass? Lord Huggington was talking like they're different but I've looked them up and the 6.5" midbass look the same as a 6.5" component speaker...

n0catchyname

Generally speaking, mids don't need specific boxes, from what I gather (ie. no technical knowledge to back that up). But I mean, pretty hard to fit a box in your door, right?

Kyle_H

Gah, ok the way Lord Huggington was talking about mids I thought they were like, not in the doors but more like a sub. so basically mids are just the bigger park of a speaker? He was referring to mids and speakers as different. I'm SOOO lost... lol

Kyle_H

Okay so here's what I'm thinking...I have sub, speakers, amp and amps figured...do I really need any specific mids or are the speakers basically good enough? I'd like something that can do high bass better though :/

Sub: Kicker 10CVX124 (CVX124) 12" Comp VX Subwoofer CVX12-4
Amp 1 (already own for existing setup): Alpine MRP-M500 Class D Monoblock Amplifier (MRPM500)
Speakers: Kicker 07DS600.2 (07ds6002) 07DS600.2 - 6-1/2" DS-Series 2-way
Amp 2: Kicker DX600.5 (11DX600.5) 5-Channel Class D Car Amplifier (or similar)

Reason for 5 channel is I was originally looking into 8/10 inch subs that would cover up to 800ish hz.

So based on those parts, would I even need specific mids, or will that sub/speaker combo cover everything?

Would a higher frequency sub be pointless?

n0catchyname

In car audio, there isn't really a whole lot of difference, mid bass speakers now a days can produce the wide range of frequencies needed. Home audio doesn't really use it either, normally just three way setups there too. 4 way systems are fairly outdated. You only really start to see the difference if you get into pro audio (DJ stuff and the like), where you can buy woofers (mid bass) vs. subwoofers, depending on what you need or want. Even then, most setups are still only 3 way setups.

A component set is a midbass and a tweeter (usually sold with a inline passive crossover). A midbass, is just that. A two-way coaxial speaker is a midbass with a tweeter built on and built in crossover. You can also get three-way coaxials, same idea as a two way, except with a three way crossover and an added speaker for mid-range highs but I wouldn't recommend it, the added speaker is useless in my opinion.

The advantage to a component set vs a coaxial is that you can place the tweeter and mid seperately, for example mid at the bottom of the door, tweet at the top. Where as coaxials you can't, so whereever your mid is, so is your tweeter, which means if you place it at the bottom of your door, you are more likely to have interference (your legs) which will block your highs. Components are better for staging, but it's the same idea.


As for your setup
I drop the 5-channel for a 4 channel. Those speakers should easily cover your mid range.

My only question is why are you running a band-pass box over a ported box?

Kyle_H

Honestly it was a hell of a deal for my current sub/box combo so yeah that's why lol