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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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hey i recently bought an old school amp (yes i finally found one!) its an old Pioneer GM-H200 (100x2 RMS @ 4ohms - 300x1 RMS @4ohms 0.03THD)

***now this amp is from around '91-'93 from what i gather, and something about this amp is different. the thing weighs 21 lbs (my 800 RMS kenwood eXcelon monoblock only weighs 18) but this thing has 2 screws for the "POWER +"), and 2 screws for the "GROUND -". has anyone ever seen anything like this? i am wondering how to hook it up. i've never seen anything like that.***

other than that little issue i'm not sure of, it seems to be a well built amp (and very heavy for a 300w RMS amp) and it has its own fan too, and (2) 30A fuses. i know this will make my component set sing! but i'm just not sure how to hook up the power lol

any input from anyone would be great!
thanks!

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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orion amps have the same thing

I dont think you have to put power to both. you could just piggy back one off the other. ghetto but hey, it works!
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure someone smart mentioned how heavy this amp was back when you were asking about it.
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/cgi/...c;f=3;t=011806

Enjoy that nice oldschool piece!
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I would say that you can piggyback yet if it's there, it's there for a reason. I have several amps like this and I always just ran a separate power cable to it. Check out my old school Zeus Gen X amp it has 3 power and 3 ground connections. It can draw alot of juice. web page for amp that has 3 power leads and 3 negative leads.
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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hehe. thanks Hardwrkr for all the great info

man, 2 power wires? i'm definately going to need a high output alt. this amp has (2) 30amp fuses, and my monoblock has (3) 25amp... i dont think my stock alternator is going to cut it lol.
so with this "piggyback" thing that would mean like just using an extra piece of wire with a ring on each end from 1 terminal to the other, and same with the ground?

yeah if i want full power from this thing to my components i'm going to need probably 2 lengths of fused 8ga wire, and definately a bigger alternator. my '94 cavalier puts out around 85 or 90 amps i think

if i was to piggyback the connections could i possibly strain the amp or anything? or hurt it? i know when i get some electrical upgrades i'm going to do it with 2 power wires, but i'm unsure if i want to swap the engine in a year's time or not. either way, i'll have to find a HO alternator for my '94 Cavalier 2.2L

thanks guys

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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My M&M amp had it,but it had independent power supplies!
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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SWEET amp, Cutra.. 3 power connections? you must have a huge alternator man, i'm going to have to start looking for a HO Alternator.

anyone know the ball park price for one for a '94 2.2L Cavalier? pretty pricey i guess:s
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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there most likly in parrelel on the inside. its usualy there ( multi connecctors) to allow you to use 3 runs of smaller gauge instead of trying to shove a big 0/1 gauge on 1 connector.
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Thanks crazykev81 yet i'm selling it on ebay right now. It's just too powerful and I need to make some cash.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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good luck with the sale man, thats a hell of an amp [img]smile.gif[/img]

ok so like i said before this thing has 2 30amp fuses, so 60amps of current draw.. i looked at this site at the chart http://www.profileusa.com/techsupport_installtips.cfm

and for 60amps at 12ft looks like i need 8ga wire.. since this has 2 power inputs could i get away with 2 12ft lengths of fused 10ga wire? or is that not how it works?

i dont wanna catch things on fire but i need to try and start saving $ for an alternator to power my 135amps of current draw from my amplifiers. my Soundsplinter RL-p 15 won't be feasible for another couple of years lol

thanks for all the answers to all my questions guys

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