Hello,

A little background:

The music I like to listen to is mostly metal, heavy on the double kick drums with thick power chord riffs. I do mix it up sometimes with some techno or just generic rock. I recently purchased a Jeep liberty. Finding the stock stereo to be absolute poop/****/garbage/ect, I began my quest for better sound. My first venture was to update the deck to an Alpine 9847 and this made a WORLD of difference to the stock speakers. I was very happy with this upgrade. I figured, why stop there? So after alittle research I picked up an Infinity Basslink (10" self powered 200watt sub Link It turned out ok. Its able to reproduce the low end frequency but its missing a "punch".

So my quest continued for a good bang/buck sub. I then decided to go the classic sub/amp/box route. I picked up an MTX thunder 6500D amp off ebay, which will put out about 500watt RMS, and have been hunting for a sub ever since.


My goals are as follows:
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• The sub must keep up with very fast dual kick drums that are common to metal</font>
• It can't take up my entire cargo area. 1 sub of any size seems to be ok, but the dual boxes are looking far too big.</font>
• My goal is to be able to feel the pound of the drum (I assume SPL does this? still new to this stuff)</font>
• Would like to keep the cost of the subs to around $250 or below</font>

So, I went down to my trusty A&B sound to talk and listen to some subs. The sales man suggested I look at the Alpine Type-R subs. He mentioned that because of my music prefference that a 10" would be able to keep up much better then a 12". We tried out a setup of 2 10" type-r's and 2 12" type-r's. The man was right, the 10's sounded nice and crisp but the 12's had a real hard time keeping up and ended up sounding really muddy. Now with that said, the 10's were in a box with the subs pointing backwards(the rear of the sub was poking out of the box facing me, not sure why they did this?).

Is this a normal acceptance of a 10" sub being much more able to keep up with hard hitting metal then a 12"?

Listening to the subs in the store, they sounded great but was missing that chest pound feeling. Now I know it makes a big difference when its not in a large store and its in a small enclosed space, but do you guys think 1 10" with 500watts would give the results i'm looking for?

What is the advantage of going with 2 subs instead of 1?

Any other advice? I've been lurking here for a while and have really appreciated your guys posts. Hopefully this thread will help others in the same situation as me.

Thanks!
-Cyntax

[ September 18, 2005, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Cyntax ]

 

^Agreed, spend the money where it is important to you, the sub is not that important to thrash

A good mid-bass that has a warm flavor to it and can crank is what you appear to be looking for (JBL, Oz, Dynaudio, Morel etc.). A single 15 or a single 12 will do you well (I like the idea of the 10's).

 

Thanks for all the replies guys.

So midbass huh? Right now there are 6.5" component speakers in the front doors (with tweaters on the dash) and 6.5" in the rear doors.

So do you think my best bet is to hunt down a nice pair of 6.5" components for the front and run an amp with them? Any suggestions on what I should look for? So far most 6.5" speakers i've heard kinda sound crappy, but I haven't reallly given them a good look yet.

 

My Dynaudio Mid's play metal quite well. I highly suggest them. I do not run a sub in my car these days.

 

Its a 2005 jeep liberty. They are factory speakers, just powered by the alpine deck.

 

If you are still looking for a sub to *add* to the double kick drums and what not, definitely look towards the Stereo Integrity D2 12" subwoofer.