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Which sub to use with orion hcca 250?

Old 02-18-2007, 07:45 PM
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Which sub to use with orion hcca 250?

Hello everyone, new to this forum but not to the internet... i've got an orion hcca 250 and a 225, and am keeping one of them, and selling the other (probably the 225). It runs 200w at 4 ohms, 400w at 2 ohms, and 800w at 1 ohm (at 12v) and put them about 25% higher at 14.4v...
What im looking for, is a sub with great sq and spl that is a good match for this amp.
I've been looking at a 12" IDMAX. Also heard of ARC Audio Flat Line.
Dont really want to do 2 subs.
Let me know what you think.

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Old 02-18-2007, 08:28 PM
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Eclipse SW8200 is a amazing sub that will also deliver exactly what you are after.
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:01 PM
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People still use those things on subs?

Originally Posted by Greg_Canada
Hello everyone, new to this forum but not to the internet... i've got an orion hcca 250 and a 225, and am keeping one of them, and selling the other (probably the 225). It runs 200w at 4 ohms, 400w at 2 ohms, and 800w at 1 ohm (at 12v) and put them about 25% higher at 14.4v...
What im looking for, is a sub with great sq and spl that is a good match for this amp.
I've been looking at a 12" IDMAX. Also heard of ARC Audio Flat Line.
Dont really want to do 2 subs.
Let me know what you think.

Cheers,
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:38 AM
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Lol... do you think i shouldnt? And why not? (i actually want to know why).
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:13 AM
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Don't get me wrong, they were great amplifiers for their time and the low loads they ran at were unheard of in those days and I think that even today they are great amplifiers if you want to run a crap load of mids. As far as using them on subwoofers their efficiency is really **** poor and they donít give you great ampere to wattage mileage like today's class D amplifiers do. If your car has an average charging system and you plan on pushing this amplifier a little to get those subs moving, I think that you'll be less then impressed with it compared to some of the newer amplifiers out there.





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Lol... do you think i shouldnt? And why not? (i actually want to know why).
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:48 AM
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hrm, so you're saying i should sell these amps and pick something up like a jl 1000/1 or similar? I've already got amps for my mids (xtant 2200 (100wrmsx2 at 4ohm) and orion cobalt 150.2cs (90wrmsx2 at 4 ohm) speaks are kicker ss 56.5 up front and infinity 6.5 reference components in the back.
Sub right now is a mtx mzs1204 (12" 300wrms max at 4 ohm) and amp is a mtx 4001 (200wrms at 4 ohm, 400wrms at 2 ohm)... and i want to upgrade the sub to match the mids.
What do you think? get a jl12 or 13w7 and 1000/1?

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13w7 and a 1000/1 will kick some ***. Another plus with this setup is that if for some reason you end up not wanting it no more, they have a great resale value. But yeah I personally wouldn't run subs with a class a/b amplifier.



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hrm, so you're saying i should sell these amps and pick something up like a jl 1000/1 or similar? I've already got amps for my mids (xtant 2200 (100wrmsx2 at 4ohm) and orion cobalt 150.2cs (90wrmsx2 at 4 ohm) speaks are kicker ss 56.5 up front and infinity 6.5 reference components in the back.
Sub right now is a mtx mzs1204 (12" 300wrms max at 4 ohm) and amp is a mtx 4001 (200wrms at 4 ohm, 400wrms at 2 ohm)... and i want to upgrade the sub to match the mids.
What do you think? get a jl12 or 13w7 and 1000/1?

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Why not? A class AB amplifer running subs worked perfectly fine for me for the first 14 years I was in this industry.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:45 PM
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I want to hear some more opinions before i get rid of them.... i know they are some nice amps i just dont know too much about them...
everyone's opinion is welcome...
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:06 PM
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And for the last 6 they have continued to work just fine as well. It is only in the last 6 that class D amps have come to the market.
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