MONTANAMAN

Attention : Veeman / Or anybody that can answer

Could you please explain to me further what you mean i have 60 watt speakers the following link is the exact speakers that i installed in the van 2 in the rear 2 in the front

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10 099469&catid=

also if i install an amp do i still need the tweeters or can i just forget about them

Thank you for all the help you guys have provided

veeman

iTrader: (3)

I believe these are the ones you have?

Pioneer USA - G-Series Speakers


If they are, then I'm sorry, but they're actually 30 watts rms or nominal in this case (they mean the same thing generally), not 60 watts as I assumed. Most car audio companies use a 3 to 1 ratio of rms (continuous rated input power that the speaker can handle) to peak power(maximum transient input power for dynamic peaks in the music). Pioneer appears to use it in a 5:1 or other ratios as needed??? In this case I would recommend an amplifier of about 30-40 wats rms x 4 channels if you need fading capability, or 30-40 watts rms x2 if you do not. You won't the extra tweeters once amplified.

MONTANAMAN

Well the box that the speakers were in said they are max 180 Watts if i add this amp you are suggesting will it sound like crap and will there be a noticable difference

veeman

iTrader: (3)

The 180 max is the peak power as I explained above. You don't want to use an amp that delivers 180 watts rms to a 180 watts peak(max) speaker (unless you really know what you're doing, as many car audio veterans do), otherwise your speakers are going to become really expensive paper weights as the coil will fry very quickly. With the suggested amp, Pioneer makes very good, relatively inexpensive amps by the way, you will notice a big improvement in quantity and quality of the sound system. Everything will be clearer, louder, and tighter. Speaker power rating rarely has anything to do with sound quality. An example would be the Alpine F#1 speakers, they're arguably about the best you can get at $3500.00 for a set, and they're only rated at 50 watts rms.

grep

This amp would be perfect.

MONTANAMAN

Veeman

What model of Pioneer amp would you suggest do you have any idea and or links to a good one

Thanks

veeman

iTrader: (3)

this one will do fine, and can be purchased for under 150.00 at local retailers. It's an Alpine amp by the way, but there are Pioneer, kenwood, sony, etc...that can be had for similar money.

2001 Audio/Video - AUDIO PRODUCTS / AMPLIFIERS

this is the pioneer equivalent, but you'll have to shop around for prices.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POCEN/Products/Car+Audio+Video/Amplifiers/GM+Series/GM-4300F

jokers_greg

mmmmmmm tweeters

MONTANAMAN

Ok now i am on the hunt for an Amp but i have another question is there a way that i can convert my speaker wires to RCA plugs or what ever they are called

veeman

iTrader: (3)

yep...it's called a loc (line out converter), everywhere sell them, FS, BB, local car audio shop. Depending on the amp, some actually come with high level inputs...no need for an loc. It takes the speaker wires directly into the amp. I think the new alpine V power amps have them...this one would work well for you;

Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. - MRP-F300