DB Drag Question?
It is too difficult to tell for sure if an amp is modded in the first place without detailed schematics. Some, such as D2's and 81000d's have been done enough that it is easy to tell, but if dB drag had to keep track of the internals of every single amp to make sure it is not moddded, it would take way too much time. Unless judges are required to have advanced electronics knowledge, thi rule would be impossible.
Street will never be true street systems. Maybe they should institute a new rule that the amps and subs used in street have to be bought at either future shop, best buy, visions, or A&B sound.
Street will never be true street systems. Maybe they should institute a new rule that the amps and subs used in street have to be bought at either future shop, best buy, visions, or A&B sound.
Street will never be true street systems. Maybe they should institute a new rule that the amps and subs used in street have to be bought at either future shop, best buy, visions, or A&B sound.
My van's system is a "true street" system. I run in Street Max 1/2, unless they're not running that division, then they stick me in Street A. The only rule that makes me SM1/2 instead of SA is that she's a cargo van. I drive her for at least 4 hours daily, often up to 8. Music playing the whole time.
I have to remove my coach battery for competition, otherwise it would put me up to Super Street.
NONE of it was bought at major stores, although I believe all of it is available through major stores.
I'm cheap, I don't install things to look pretty, I install them to work well. Home Depot carpeting, plastic speaker rings, MDF box, my "own solution" to the costs of sound deadening...
If that ain't Street, I dunno what is...
Originally posted by GrizZz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Street will never be true street systems. Maybe they should institute a new rule that the amps and subs used in street have to be bought at either future shop, best buy, visions, or A&B sound.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Street will never be true street systems. Maybe they should institute a new rule that the amps and subs used in street have to be bought at either future shop, best buy, visions, or A&B sound.
My van's system is a "true street" system. I run in Street Max 1/2, unless they're not running that division, then they stick me in Street A. The only rule that makes me SM1/2 instead of SA is that she's a cargo van. I drive her for at least 4 hours daily, often up to 8. Music playing the whole time.
I have to remove my coach battery for competition, otherwise it would put me up to Super Street.
NONE of it was bought at major stores, although I believe all of it is available through major stores.
I'm cheap, I don't install things to look pretty, I install them to work well. Home Depot carpeting, plastic speaker rings, MDF box, my "own solution" to the costs of sound deadening...
If that ain't Street, I dunno what is... </font>[/QUOTE]we're talking about street systems that are competitive on a national level... not people who daily drive with their systems. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Amps modded to accept more voltage are not allowed in Stock classes in IdBL (IASCA), but as has been said, it is virtually impossible to police amps that are modded to work at lower impedances.
Pretty well all amps on the market today will accept up to 16 volts before they go into protect, so when doing inspections in IdBL we use a multi meter to measure the input voltage to the amps. If it's over 16 volts then it stands to reason that the amp has been modded, so the competitor would be moved into Advanced class.
I agree that modded amps should not be allowed in Street classes, but it's tough to actually eliminate them from being used, there's no way to be absolutely certain if the amp is modded or not unless you open it up and physically look inside it.
Pretty well all amps on the market today will accept up to 16 volts before they go into protect, so when doing inspections in IdBL we use a multi meter to measure the input voltage to the amps. If it's over 16 volts then it stands to reason that the amp has been modded, so the competitor would be moved into Advanced class.
I agree that modded amps should not be allowed in Street classes, but it's tough to actually eliminate them from being used, there's no way to be absolutely certain if the amp is modded or not unless you open it up and physically look inside it.
Well... isn't that what a "Street" division implies?
"Street" implies normal cars, few mods, save for a little sound deadening...
Street Max, a little more mods... but still street legal...
Super Street - border-line street legal...
And so on... It's supposed to be just like real drag racing, with all it's division's... no?
'Course, I guess you're right, in that these are meant to be SPL Street machines... not meant to sound good... hmmm........
"Street" implies normal cars, few mods, save for a little sound deadening...
Street Max, a little more mods... but still street legal...
Super Street - border-line street legal...
And so on... It's supposed to be just like real drag racing, with all it's division's... no?
'Course, I guess you're right, in that these are meant to be SPL Street machines... not meant to sound good... hmmm........
There is no real way to keep the Street classes actually Street.. They tried the move-up rule, they've tried equipment restrictions..
And in the end.. someone always either finds a loop-whole, or just gets insanely loud..
I say bring back mini-street.. let the newbies play!!
And in the end.. someone always either finds a loop-whole, or just gets insanely loud..
I say bring back mini-street.. let the newbies play!!
Mini Street rules. They need to bring that back.
Street will never be "Street".
I think any discussion on such is pointless.
There will always be competitors who only do what they need to to keep it street. They won't drive their cars, they won't tune it for street bass ,they won't even install components in the front for what most anyone cares. They will be a box on wheels, just like extreme, except they will comply to a different set of installation guidelines. If anyone thinks otherwise, they are honestly kidding themselves.
That said, I think moddified amplifiers should be allowed. In fact, it makes things fairer. If I buy an amplifier that has a very weak protection circuit and pulling it out will stop my amp from shutting off in competitions, then I should be allowed to do that. Some companies build their amps already modified. Some other companies have sent out service bulletins explaining the modifications and how to perform them, sort of acting as a do it yourself recall campaign.
Street will never be "Street".
I think any discussion on such is pointless.
There will always be competitors who only do what they need to to keep it street. They won't drive their cars, they won't tune it for street bass ,they won't even install components in the front for what most anyone cares. They will be a box on wheels, just like extreme, except they will comply to a different set of installation guidelines. If anyone thinks otherwise, they are honestly kidding themselves.
That said, I think moddified amplifiers should be allowed. In fact, it makes things fairer. If I buy an amplifier that has a very weak protection circuit and pulling it out will stop my amp from shutting off in competitions, then I should be allowed to do that. Some companies build their amps already modified. Some other companies have sent out service bulletins explaining the modifications and how to perform them, sort of acting as a do it yourself recall campaign.
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