Power Wire Hook Up Solder vs. Crimp pics here
07-09-2004, 12:08 PM
#1
ok, alot of ppl asked what is the best way to hook up power cable to terminals and other connects. Some of us said crimp and some have said solder. so here are some pics of soldered and crimped 1/0 power cable, enjoy.
Here is a crimped connection
took only 2 chops with my mom's gardening knife to cut it right off. you can even see the gaps between the terminal and the wire going in. and yes this was done with a vise. I find it that the only place the terminal holds the wire (full contact) is in the middle, off to the edges u can see the gaps.
Here is a pic of a soldered and crimped connection
the tip of wire on the soldered connection was solid, it cant be bent or cut any shorter, took me about 30 mins to trim it down to what u see in the pic. the tip is 100% solid and appears to have 100% contact with the terminal.
so to anyone wondering, i think the better way is to
..........solder
Here is a crimped connection
took only 2 chops with my mom's gardening knife to cut it right off. you can even see the gaps between the terminal and the wire going in. and yes this was done with a vise. I find it that the only place the terminal holds the wire (full contact) is in the middle, off to the edges u can see the gaps.
Here is a pic of a soldered and crimped connection
the tip of wire on the soldered connection was solid, it cant be bent or cut any shorter, took me about 30 mins to trim it down to what u see in the pic. the tip is 100% solid and appears to have 100% contact with the terminal.
so to anyone wondering, i think the better way is to
..........solder
07-09-2004, 03:14 PM
#3
That is not a proper crimp, that's sticking the connector in a vice and tightening it. a proper crimp is at least as good as a solder connection. A PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire. I'll take some pictures of some properly done crimp connections on monday when I'm at a high voltage substation.
PS if soldering was better, we would use if for high voltage and high current applications. however we use hydraulicly crimped connections because there is much less chance of having a bad connection. I've seen many solder connections in larger guage wire, and even many molten connections which are much much better than solder, fail because of improper cleaning, or not ehough heat, even when done by people who have been trained and have years of experience.
but why trust the electrician when it comes to wire connections?
PS if soldering was better, we would use if for high voltage and high current applications. however we use hydraulicly crimped connections because there is much less chance of having a bad connection. I've seen many solder connections in larger guage wire, and even many molten connections which are much much better than solder, fail because of improper cleaning, or not ehough heat, even when done by people who have been trained and have years of experience.
but why trust the electrician when it comes to wire connections?
07-09-2004, 03:25 PM
#5
i dont know about the resistance but there is less voltage drop with the soldered one.
Sassmaster, yes dude we all have high voltage substations and we all have hydralic pumps to compress the connector around the wire.??? wtf are u talking about there man? or even who are u talking to?
this post is for an average guy who does his installs himself, who has access to a vice and would crimp something but tightening the vice.
im sorry but i dont even know where i'd have to go to find a machine that would compress the ring around the wire.
so how about this, u put up a pic of the crimped connection done in your car so we all can see the proper way of doing it
Sassmaster, yes dude we all have high voltage substations and we all have hydralic pumps to compress the connector around the wire.??? wtf are u talking about there man? or even who are u talking to?
this post is for an average guy who does his installs himself, who has access to a vice and would crimp something but tightening the vice.
im sorry but i dont even know where i'd have to go to find a machine that would compress the ring around the wire.
so how about this, u put up a pic of the crimped connection done in your car so we all can see the proper way of doing it
07-09-2004, 03:31 PM
#7
if you don't have the tools to do the job right, either get them, or leave the job to someone who knows what they're doing.
That solder joint is more likely to fall apart than the crimped joint. Because while the crimped connector has physical pressure on the conductors, that solder joint, if it shakes loose, and it does look like it will, since the solder joint is dull in colour, which marks a cold solder joint, there is nothing to keep it there. try soldering your squashed connection, you'll get a much better joint.
An uneducated, untrained person trying to teach people how do make electrical connections is dangerous.
That solder joint is more likely to fall apart than the crimped joint. Because while the crimped connector has physical pressure on the conductors, that solder joint, if it shakes loose, and it does look like it will, since the solder joint is dull in colour, which marks a cold solder joint, there is nothing to keep it there. try soldering your squashed connection, you'll get a much better joint.
An uneducated, untrained person trying to teach people how do make electrical connections is dangerous.
07-09-2004, 03:41 PM
#8
my mom's gardening knife was a joke
so if i was to get a hydralic compressor how much would that run me to do the job right?? Hmm interesting, every single car audio shop i had been do either uses vice or solders the power wire. damn thats alot of uneducated ppl. Im yet to see a solder join done right come apart like u claim. none of mine have. I use sale solder and same method to put it all together as every single car audio shop, so u are pretty much saying that they dont know what they are doing. anyways, untill I see a pic of a proper connection done in your car, or maybe a car audio shop with a hydralic compressor im not respnding to your pointless posts.
in the mean time im gonna go buy a hydralic compressor.
so if i was to get a hydralic compressor how much would that run me to do the job right?? Hmm interesting, every single car audio shop i had been do either uses vice or solders the power wire. damn thats alot of uneducated ppl. Im yet to see a solder join done right come apart like u claim. none of mine have. I use sale solder and same method to put it all together as every single car audio shop, so u are pretty much saying that they dont know what they are doing. anyways, untill I see a pic of a proper connection done in your car, or maybe a car audio shop with a hydralic compressor im not respnding to your pointless posts.
in the mean time im gonna go buy a hydralic compressor.
07-09-2004, 03:50 PM
#10
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 295
