View Poll Results: How can we encourage more people to start competing
Mini Street
11
26.83%
Bass Race
9
21.95%
Both Mini Street and Bass Race
11
26.83%
Neither - Need something else
10
24.39%
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What do noobs want?
08-28-2007, 10:26 AM
#51
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by fauker
First of all, you can't tell people to stay at home and watch cartoons and not come to the show.
I used to compete and now I support my friends in their team and go to watch and help out with their cars.
If you want people to come to the shows you have to make them want to come out.
So what if you have to offer an incentive to compete in the shows, if no noobs come and compete, then all you'll have is the same people at every show.
Now, it's not even the noobs getting all bitchy and huffy over losing anyways... as soon as one of the regulars or pros gets beat, it's all
"they're cheating" "rip the car apart and audit", and there is a situation going on right now doing exactly that,,, not sure if I can comment on the situation, but it'll come out here soon enough I'm sure.
With every "sport" you have to have new people coming in to keep it going or there wont be any events in the future.
Noobs should be encouraged to come and if making a new class for them to "get their feet wet" will bring them out, than so be it.
Shunning them away only makes you look like a know it all fool who wants everything for yourself.
I used to compete and now I support my friends in their team and go to watch and help out with their cars.
If you want people to come to the shows you have to make them want to come out.
So what if you have to offer an incentive to compete in the shows, if no noobs come and compete, then all you'll have is the same people at every show.
Now, it's not even the noobs getting all bitchy and huffy over losing anyways... as soon as one of the regulars or pros gets beat, it's all
"they're cheating" "rip the car apart and audit", and there is a situation going on right now doing exactly that,,, not sure if I can comment on the situation, but it'll come out here soon enough I'm sure.
With every "sport" you have to have new people coming in to keep it going or there wont be any events in the future.
Noobs should be encouraged to come and if making a new class for them to "get their feet wet" will bring them out, than so be it.
Shunning them away only makes you look like a know it all fool who wants everything for yourself.
Telling someone not to come out and stay home and watch cartoons doesn't exactly encourage people to come out. I "get" where the comment comes from but I disagree with it. I dont compete in audio but that isnt the point. I play hockey at a fairly competitive level and can probably skate circles around a LARGE portion of the general public. But I never ever discourage anyone to come out and play (unless they cant skate .. then I suggest some lessons first :P).
I also find that people who will insult others for such things make their own comments moot by lack of credibility. If the best someone can come up with to a difference of opinion is an insult, that undermines anything else that person says. This has not happened here .. Im just saying in general.
08-28-2007, 10:30 AM
#52
Originally Posted by Lucifer_Ghost
I never wanted to make these comments in fear of starting a flame war but I agree 100%.
Telling someone not to come out and stay home and watch cartoons doesn't exactly encourage people to come out. I "get" where the comment comes from but I disagree with it. I dont compete in audio but that isnt the point. I play hockey at a fairly competitive level and can probably skate circles around a LARGE portion of the general public. But I never ever discourage anyone to come out and play (unless they cant skate .. then I suggest some lessons first :P).
I also find that people who will insult others for such things make their own comments moot by lack of credibility. If the best someone can come up with to a difference of opinion is an insult, that undermines anything else that person says. This has not happened here .. Im just saying in general.
Telling someone not to come out and stay home and watch cartoons doesn't exactly encourage people to come out. I "get" where the comment comes from but I disagree with it. I dont compete in audio but that isnt the point. I play hockey at a fairly competitive level and can probably skate circles around a LARGE portion of the general public. But I never ever discourage anyone to come out and play (unless they cant skate .. then I suggest some lessons first :P).
I also find that people who will insult others for such things make their own comments moot by lack of credibility. If the best someone can come up with to a difference of opinion is an insult, that undermines anything else that person says. This has not happened here .. Im just saying in general.
Yea, not happened here my ***.
08-28-2007, 11:17 AM
#53
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by silverbane
SUUUUUNNNNDDDDOOOOWWWWNNNNN!!!
Yea, not happened here my ***.
Yea, not happened here my ***.
Its pretty common for people to flame and insult for no reason on message boards. Its an anonymous place where you can do whatever you want without anything happening to you.
08-28-2007, 11:19 AM
#54
this thread is too funny. there havent been any comments from any noob who has actually attended any shows and knows wtf they are talkin about for like the last 3 pages of this thread.
the reality of the situation is, it doesnt matter if i tell people to stay home and watch cartoons or if i kneel down and beg people to come to a show, 99% of "noobs" will still cry and complaint and probably will not show at all or not compete in the event if they do attend.
there are a few guys who would participate regardless of loosing. Fauker take your friends for example (blue crx), they are not the most knowledgable or experianced spl competitors but they still come out and compete at shows. they dont cry or bitch even if they loose or have equipment problems. Not to mention that they get better and better every time i see their score.
the reality of the situation is, it doesnt matter if i tell people to stay home and watch cartoons or if i kneel down and beg people to come to a show, 99% of "noobs" will still cry and complaint and probably will not show at all or not compete in the event if they do attend.
there are a few guys who would participate regardless of loosing. Fauker take your friends for example (blue crx), they are not the most knowledgable or experianced spl competitors but they still come out and compete at shows. they dont cry or bitch even if they loose or have equipment problems. Not to mention that they get better and better every time i see their score.
08-28-2007, 11:24 AM
#55
^^ Yuli, that comment is not 100%valid! i know that alot of noobs show up, try, at the very least show up and ask questions!!! However I know some of the "noobs" just sit on forums, such as canadian car audio and do nothing but complain!! Its always amusing, but how would you find a way to get noobs to show up and compete OTHER then offering the Noob class?? I know being somewhat noob, I show up and learn from shows at least!! and help out where and when I can!! this is just from my point of view!
08-28-2007, 11:30 AM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Killer_klown187
^^ Yuli, that comment is not 100%valid! i know that alot of noobs show up, try, at the very least show up and ask questions!!! However I know some of the "noobs" just sit on forums, such as canadian car audio and do nothing but complain!! Its always amusing, but how would you find a way to get noobs to show up and compete OTHER then offering the Noob class?? I know being somewhat noob, I show up and learn from shows at least!! and help out where and when I can!! this is just from my point of view!
08-28-2007, 11:46 AM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
I try my best to make the classes so everyone gets a prize but it would be hard to have 20 first place prizes. I am going to have to start dividing people into classes based on the color of their speaker wire. Maybe even the size of the tires on their car.
08-28-2007, 05:07 PM
#59
Yankee
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,599
Frankly getting new folks to compete is always a chore, getting them to compete at the next show is the sign of success. Frankly the event has to be fun to do, they have to know what they are doing and when to do it, they want to be taught too, and it needs to be affordable.
Some of this is the responsibility of attendees (dont be a audio snob help the guy next to you) as well as the event hosts. Share tips and try things to get folks louder. We are a community of the socially challenged (take Yuli for instance...
)we make a lot of noise and **** a lot of people off so a feeling of belonging is nice.
Teams make the events fun, start a team and actively recruit to try to get a winner in every class. Again, this provides a feeling of belonging and purpose... rule Canada SPL. Challenge other teams, it does NOT have to be "if he is louder than me he is cheating", that is baby crap BS, so sportsmanship needs to be taught as well. Loose with as much class as if you won. On the other side of this point, strict adherence to the rules is needed.
The Event Coordinator/ head Judge needs to be competent on the microphone, he does not have to be a DJ but he does have to answer the 'who, what, when' questions. I like to do an update after first runs so everyone knows where they stand so they can step up for the second run. The show needs to be professionally run and not last too long (a full day in the hot sun can take the fun out of an event in a hurry).
EDIT: this is as valid for SQ as it is SPL
Some of this is the responsibility of attendees (dont be a audio snob help the guy next to you) as well as the event hosts. Share tips and try things to get folks louder. We are a community of the socially challenged (take Yuli for instance...
)we make a lot of noise and **** a lot of people off so a feeling of belonging is nice.Teams make the events fun, start a team and actively recruit to try to get a winner in every class. Again, this provides a feeling of belonging and purpose... rule Canada SPL. Challenge other teams, it does NOT have to be "if he is louder than me he is cheating", that is baby crap BS, so sportsmanship needs to be taught as well. Loose with as much class as if you won. On the other side of this point, strict adherence to the rules is needed.
The Event Coordinator/ head Judge needs to be competent on the microphone, he does not have to be a DJ but he does have to answer the 'who, what, when' questions. I like to do an update after first runs so everyone knows where they stand so they can step up for the second run. The show needs to be professionally run and not last too long (a full day in the hot sun can take the fun out of an event in a hurry).
EDIT: this is as valid for SQ as it is SPL
Last edited by JohnVroom; 08-28-2007 at 05:09 PM.
08-28-2007, 08:01 PM
#60
Originally Posted by Prolifik
this thread is too funny. there havent been any comments from any noob who has actually attended any shows and knows wtf they are talkin about for like the last 3 pages of this thread.
the reality of the situation is, it doesnt matter if i tell people to stay home and watch cartoons or if i kneel down and beg people to come to a show, 99% of "noobs" will still cry and complaint and probably will not show at all or not compete in the event if they do attend.
there are a few guys who would participate regardless of loosing. Fauker take your friends for example (blue crx), they are not the most knowledgable or experianced spl competitors but they still come out and compete at shows. they dont cry or bitch even if they loose or have equipment problems. Not to mention that they get better and better every time i see their score.
the reality of the situation is, it doesnt matter if i tell people to stay home and watch cartoons or if i kneel down and beg people to come to a show, 99% of "noobs" will still cry and complaint and probably will not show at all or not compete in the event if they do attend.
there are a few guys who would participate regardless of loosing. Fauker take your friends for example (blue crx), they are not the most knowledgable or experianced spl competitors but they still come out and compete at shows. they dont cry or bitch even if they loose or have equipment problems. Not to mention that they get better and better every time i see their score.
Amy
Last edited by Audio Aim; 08-28-2007 at 08:05 PM.
