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how to tune an eq without rta?

Old Apr 23, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by nath:

when a system sounds good it will play ANYTHING YOU THROW AT IT
Thats not really true.

I have listened to what some consider to be the best sounding mobile systems, and have listened to some of the best/better home audio gear as well.

In each case i have found some play certain types of music better then others. For example, really dynamic music like, dire straights - money for nothing. Horn cars that are tuned properly play this type of music better then most regular speaker cars. But then something like Jennifer Warnes they might not do so well at. Sure it would sound decent enough.

A funny one that i remember was Steve heads car at 2003 iasca finals.. Sounds good (drivers side only) with any common music.. But put in the Iasca disc and it sounded like ***, i wanted to barf. I think he had presets for judging and then for spectators lol.

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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nahh I agree with nath..

A good pair of headphones with nice flat response is pretty much an ideal reference when tuning a system....
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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funny you should mention steve heads car at the 2003 iasca finals
AS I JUDGED IT
i am in my spare time an international iasca sound quality judge
ive heard good cars and ive heard bad cars and ive heard cars that are set right
get one thats sat right and it will play anything you care to throw at it
for proof go and listen to gary biggs car it doesnt matter what you put on it it sounds absoloubtedly brilliant and will spit the disc back at you and shout for some more if you have to change settings for differnat types of music then the system isnt set as good as what it could be

headphones are superb for referancing a system
for tonality but i wouldnt advise using them to adjust for imaging
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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I have heard garys car. As well as i have heard mark eldridges.

I found Marks is more dynamic (From the horns obviously (or what ever hes actually using lol) and had better subbass.. But i did prefer garys, Seems better at the music i prefer.

Both vehicles are excellent.. But each does certain things better.. After all, they are completely different, in every way.

Only thing i HATED about garys was that stupid fiberglassed rib down the center of the back rest.. Me being a "skinny person" it hurts the spin lol.

O by the way, did you only listen to the iasca disc in the car? I dont.
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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see...what's great to one is not so great to another.
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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i have also judged marks car which sounded overly
dynamic and over processed
i much prefer garys car
i know what both guys are running speaker wise but i have been asked to keep it secret so will
obviously do so

when judging a car obviously i only use the official iasca disc but when listening afterwards i use a variety of material from classical to hardcore to see if any of it can make the system falter usually one of the discs i use can make a system fluff on something garys is the only exception to the rule its the only car including my own which wont be flustered by anything this is why i think if you set the car up correctly in the first place it will play anything
Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by nath:
i have also judged marks car which sounded overly
dynamic and over processed
i much prefer garys car
i know what both guys are running speaker wise but i have been asked to keep it secret so will
obviously do so

when judging a car obviously i only use the official iasca disc but when listening afterwards i use a variety of material from classical to hardcore to see if any of it can make the system falter usually one of the discs i use can make a system fluff on something garys is the only exception to the rule its the only car including my own which wont be flustered by anything this is why i think if you set the car up correctly in the first place it will play anything
Huh, you essentially agreed with my last post, and that a audio system can be better at one thing then another. Except for garys car, which is fine. Maybe the fiberglass spin in the seat rest made it so i couldnt fully appreciate it LOL

I actually really enjoyed Steve Cornells car.

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the compliment dereck.

Did i ever tell you that at the calgary event my EQ was set flat/no adjustments? Serious lack of time that summer.

Im interested to hear what your thoughts will be of the new system.
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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no i completely disagree with your statement
you could play any music you liked in gary biggs car and it will suck it up and play it fantastic
no problem
by contrast try playing something with large amounts of orchestral music in marks car it will cut the ears off you at 500 paces
hence not able to play all types of music without altering eq
which is why i think garys car is better to listen too

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