chev2

Thats a tuff one.. The rears are less important yes, but its still important to have speakers that have a similar sound.. tuff one..

Another higher end design might be http://www.audiocomponents.nl/speake...remium_eng.htm They dont come as kits, you have to buy the parts individually from parts express or solen.

I have a couple morel designs kicking around to.. no center channel though, just a tower and book sheilf designs.

[ October 29, 2004, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: chev2 ]

Kool

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Thanks Chev2. I'll look into the Vifas.

Generally speaking, what is the difference in sound between a full tower speaker, and a stand mounted speaker if the same drivers were used. Does the larger box of the tower speaker result in lower bass and more efficiency as with subs in car audio? I'm thinking the difference would be more minimal with mid woofers.

chev2

^ your basically right.. The larger enclosure allows the speaker to play lower, and the response to be smoother.

If your comparing thor to the odin kit, hopefully your aware that thor is a transmission line, and the odin is ported.. The odin seems to have a lower freq. response.. i never noticed that before, wierd.

I did some looking around seas website and came across this design (Its from there older kits) http://www.seas.no/kit/Embla.pdf comparing prices, a tweet and mid costs about 100 cdn, instead of the almost 500 of the trym, for a single speaker/channel that is.. for a 100 bucks its worth a shot as rears.. If they dont work, sell them. lol

[ October 29, 2004, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: chev2 ]

Kool

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Hmm, I might just try that [img]smile.gif[/img] Thanks for the info.

BTW, what is the difference between transmission line and ported. I'm guessing it has something to do with stuffing the cabinet with polyfill? Sorry, I am a newbie to home audio speakers lol

[ October 29, 2004, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]

chev2

I found a picture to show the difference..

this is the thor (On the right), transmission line http://www.seas.no/thor.htm You will notice the long interior middle wall, and how the size slowly tappers towards the exit.. (its a folding line, with the opening at the top). There is no port..

Heres a PDF on the design of the thor, if your interested in that kind of stuff. http://www.madisound.com/audioXpress...r%20Review.pdf

[ October 29, 2004, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: chev2 ]

Kool

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Thanks again [img]smile.gif[/img]

chev2

With the current exchange rate i would almost consider buying the kit from www.madisound.com it works out to about 1250CDN.. About 200 less then solen.. Not sure if it would still be cheaper after shipping and boarder tax etc. etc.

Kool

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Hmm, Solen has pretty decent prices though, and I bet Madisound charges an arm and a leg to ship to Canada. Taxes would be very high buying these expensive speakers from the US as well, especially since they are manufactured in Europe.

[ October 29, 2004, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]

Kool

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I'm not solely looking for kits I guess, although they are very tempting. They are just convenient as they come with everything I need including designs, as well as offering higher quality drivers than retail offerings at the same price point. I do have 2 concenrs about the kets though. One is that I can't audition them and have to take a chance based on the opinions of others. I will soon have Scan-Speak Revs in my car, and they are the same as the Revs used in the Revelation kit (except for being of different resistance), so that will give me somewhat of an idea of what the Scan drivers can sound like.

My second concern is that I am overdoing it for a home theatre setup with such speakers. I have yet to come across a kit sold by a Canadian site that was designed for home theatre use. The GR Research website as the AV line of speakers, but I don't want to buy from a US site like that as I will pay an arm and a leg to get them over the border. I'm hoping Creative Sounds will carry them, as they are affiliated with GR Research. The website hasn't been updated to indicate as such yet though.

I am definately not one for designing crossovers and wouldn't have the first clue about designing and tuning a speaker cabinet, so a true DIY project likely is out of the question.

I would consider a retail package if it was good quality, the sound was to my liking, and it was for a reasonable price. I might look into a used setup of Paradigm speakers if I can audition them first. A lot of people on home audio boards hype the Paradigms up, but until I hear for myself I don't know for sure. I really like the idea of listening before I make such an investment.

I do want high quality and good sound, and I'm not scared to pay for it. My budget will be between $2000 and $3000 for an entire 7.1 setup of speakers, depending on if they are new or used. I plan on starting with 5.1, but will buy 2 more speakers to upgrade to 7.1 when I get a new receiver in the future. Therefore whatever I buy has to be upgradeable and work well in 7.1 as well.