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Old 01-30-2007, 09:23 AM
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Mid Bass Help --- 80Hz to 200Hz

I have an Alpine Type-X 12" powered from a 1000W RMS MTX TA81001. It is only at half gain for now untill i get a HO alt.

It is in a slot ported box tuned at 40Hz from 3/4" MDF.

As you can probally assume, it does deeper than a hooker sans gag reflex. Anything between 30 and 60HZ it POUNDS.

Only problem is I'd like to get alil bit of range.

The sub/box (whichever is to blame...most likely box) will do 30 to 60 well, up to 80, not great but substantial but 100 and above ...unsatisfactory.

I have a TA5302 amplifier that is currently on highpass and is supplying 125W to my Components in the front, but the tweeters, can be...painful at times. so...

I was thinking... I could run the Components of the HU, and use the TA5302 to either

push 2 KICKER SSMB6 or KICKER SSMB8 with the amp on lowpass and pushing 125W to each of those

OR

1 8" or 10" subwoofer in a "tight as a omish girl at her first prom" box with the TA5302 Bridged for 300W RMS

im looking to pump 80Hz to 200Hz

help me obi won...your my only hope
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:32 AM
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Running your comps off deck power is not advised. Any decent comp is going to need more than deck power to get the most from them.

If you're going to add dedicated midbass I would suggest adding a dedicated amplifier to them in your case.

Either that or get a component set more capable of doing what you want from them.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:39 AM
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where is your mibass going to be ?at 200 i would have in the front and run it off an amp
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:24 PM
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I have 2 JL W60's for sale. They call them mini-subs, but really they work best for low mid-bass. I had them in my old car, for exactly what you want. Couldn't fit them in my new car.
I also have the Kicker KX2 crossover i used.

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom.F.1
I have 2 JL W60's for sale. They call them mini-subs, but really they work best for low mid-bass. I had them in my old car, for exactly what you want. Couldn't fit them in my new car.
I also have the Kicker KX2 crossover i used.

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this isn't really going to help your question, but I just wanted to add something because of the first part of your post. "It is only at half gain for now untill i get a HO alt."

The gains are used to match the output voltage from your deck to your amp. I realize you might be trying to limit the voltage draw from your amp, but I just want to make sure you aren't using the gain as a volume ****. I know with my setup I keep the gain pretty much all the way down (my deck has 8 volt preouts though).

You may already know this, but I just wanted to make sure you don't end up badly clipping the signal and possibly harming your equipment.
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Doh! I never thought of that.

PM sent.
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Originally Posted by zzzzzzz
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Because then I wouldn't be interested in them aswell.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 75grandam
this isn't really going to help your question, but I just wanted to add something because of the first part of your post. "It is only at half gain for now untill i get a HO alt."

The gains are used to match the output voltage from your deck to your amp. I realize you might be trying to limit the voltage draw from your amp, but I just want to make sure you aren't using the gain as a volume ****. I know with my setup I keep the gain pretty much all the way down (my deck has 8 volt preouts though).

You may already know this, but I just wanted to make sure you don't end up badly clipping the signal and possibly harming your equipment.

Hmm, I have 4V pre-outs from my deck.

out of curiosity how would i harm my system by incorrectly setting my gain.

i am ashamed to say that i have been using the gain similar to a volume.

i understand the concept of gain and the workings of linear amplification.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:33 AM
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Ok without pictures, imagine a wave of water. its one constant flow, 1m tall at peaks, 1m down at the valleys. 1m is as far as we are going to let this example move, and pretend it represents the maximum movement your sub can move and your amp can put out. If it doesn't touch our invisible barrier of 1m when it's at it's highest and lowest, we get one nice smooth movement out of our sub, in and out. The amp cycles up, then cycles back down, with no problem. If we turn up the gain, we are pushing this wave to try and work beyond the 1m limit. but what happens is that we are really chopping off the top and bottom of the wave, leaving a flat, possibly 1 second long sections of full power. This will make your amp try to hold that peak of it's cycle for much longer than a nice wave, as well as try to hold your sub in and out during this stage. This is what ruins them from the best of my knowledge. Google it if you aren't sure. I hope I'm correct but then again it's 9:30am and I am hungover. Da Bears.
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