It is? Please provide an example.

Even mid-level home speaker manufacturers will flush mount a tweeter into the baffle rather than have the mounting flange sit proud of it.

Or are you referring to some exotic designs, like the B&W 800 and Nautilus series, that put the tweeter in a pod completely removed from the baffle? This is also a preferred mounting method but generally impractical in a car.

 

I dont think we can compare home and car audio much in this instance. Hi end home systems generally take the speakers acoustic center into consideration. We dont bother to do that in car audio. As far as reflections go, your either going to try reflect them, absorb them, or a combonation of the two.

 

Dukk, I agree that it is far more common to see the tweeter mounted flush. However, variations of the location of the enclosure (ie. on a stand vs in a wall in a home application) in which the tweeter is mounted will certainly have great a effect not only on the tonal characteristics but also soundstage. Of course this does become somewhat of a moot point in a vehicle as fozzz pointed out due to the fact that it is such a small environment which is filled with numerous reflecting and absorbing surfaces. Since in mobile applications we cant change the environment dramatically, location becomes paramount. I guess it comes down to a balance between what you are trying to achieve acoustically and what is a practical installation.

 

Odd, I have my mids in my door panels, and the tweets up in the lower of the windshield pillars close to the dash, with a slight angle of them to the windshield to bounce/reflect sound. It sounds amazing.

I never thought of putting the tweeters anywhere near my mids.

Tim

 

How is this statement in any way related to the previous one?:

I guess I need you to qualify that statement.

This bit I find interesting:
How are you dramatically changing your in-home environment? Are you moving walls? Recovering floors? I mean really, although different, a listening room and a car both offer many challenges that can take just as much effort to accomodate.


Also, just because a car is a challenging environment, it is no reason to disregard proper speaker mounting techniques, which was my point in the first place.

 

I'm not suggesting that you should disregard proper speaker mounting techniques, what I am saying is in fact it becomes more important in difficult environments. With regards to the home environment, I am simply stating that it is easier to change the environment. In addition to simply picking up and moving the various speakers or subs, furniture, rugs etc. you can also easily employ acoustical panels or bass traps for example. I believe this to be far easier than in a car. Thats all. My question is why you think all speakers should be mounted flush in a panel?

 

Flush mounting has been proven to reduce baffle refraction and reflection effects. Some manufacturers (B&W for example) have moved the tweeter into a seperate enclosure all together but there are still challenges to over come such as time delayed reflections off the woofer cabinet. Flush mounting is probably the easiest way to reduce the effects to a minimum. In a car it usually isn't difficult to do.

Flush Mounting - Zaph Audio

Edit: Regarding the ideal distance between tweeter and woofer, an equal path length between the listener and each of the drivers is the target. A point source (like a coaxial) is the holy grail but not really necessary.

 

There ya go...see, Kevin's down with the clown...

 

Thank you guys.

 

Throw em in where the stockers are. Are the stock speakers not setup for proper imaging?