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Old 08-06-2010, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by avidedtr
It's a T/A issue. Adjust your T/A up by one or down by one. And see if fixed it.
ya still running the 99 but that dosent answer my question.. the song is perfect up till then... why what changed.. was it the studios mistake. or my deck.. and what does go up one or down one mean.. my deck doesent adjust that way.
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Old 08-06-2010, 03:27 AM
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Up or down one inch at a time until she is looking at you. It's a time consumming bitch, but it is what it is.
Have you tried the same with Spanish Harlem? I find her voice to be easier to tune to.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by goalie 35
ya still running the 99 but that dosent answer my question.. the song is perfect up till then... why what changed.. was it the studios mistake. or my deck.. and what does go up one or down one mean.. my deck doesent adjust that way.
The CD is fine - I checked it on my reference system and she's is where she has to be. Did you even try what I suggested? I own'd the exact same deck and track 12 was a no problem - You probably have either a slight phase issue in the 2k-4k range or and install/dampening problem

Move the P99 T/A up buy one or down by one the Mid and Tw and see if it helps.
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Could also be frequency steering. Is your imaging solid o. Other tracks?
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by avidedtr
The CD is fine - I checked it on my reference system and she's is where she has to be. Did you even try what I suggested? I own'd the exact same deck and track 12 was a no problem - You probably have either a slight phase issue in the 2k-4k range or and install/dampening problem

Move the P99 T/A up buy one or down by one the Mid and Tw and see if it helps.
mid is crossed over at 120 to 5k then tweets from 5k to infinity. the rest of the c.d. is dead centre.... just that section of that track... 7 drum beats are the perfect.. side mirror to side mirror.... and the three voices.. "my voice should apperar, ect and they sound natural and are bang on where they should be.. but i will try the moving up/down.. and will reply tommorrow.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:49 PM
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I would drop the x-over frequency of the tweeters to 3.5k to see if the overlap will accommodate the vocal shift. You'll of course need to recalibrate after that, but you'll be amazed at the difference.
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Originally Posted by goalie 35
mid is crossed over at 120 to 5k then tweets from 5k to infinity. the rest of the c.d. is dead centre.... just that section of that track... 7 drum beats are the perfect.. side mirror to side mirror.... and the three voices.. "my voice should apperar, ect and they sound natural and are bang on where they should be.. but i will try the moving up/down.. and will reply tommorrow.
The drums freqs are no where near her vocal frequency response. I personally think the 7 drums is poor representation for establishing imaging - but that's just what we have to deal with.

Doing the test suggested may screw you center but it may move her more right. I hope you get it working
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:38 PM
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I would drop the x-over frequency of the tweeters to 3.5k to see if the overlap will accommodate the vocal shift. You'll of course need to recalibrate after that, but you'll be amazed at the difference.
I would try that too. Keep the vol to a moderate level. I'm not familiar with your brand of tweeters they may fix your problem. Make sure they can even play that low on the axis you set them at
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:01 AM
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tried them down to 2k and made a mess of the stage.. also we want to keep xover points out of the midrange to high area as our ears are very sensitve to this range of hearing so the higher we can xover the mid to tweet the better.. unless your tweet can play as low as 800hz i dont recomment a xover in that area.. thats why over the past few yrs we have seen the use of a 3.5 to 4 inch speaker due the bulk of the midrange to low high work instead of a 6.5 tweet where we get a xover right smack in the middle of that range i spoke of earlier... this is one of the main reasons for waveguides.. you can run a midbass from 60 to 700hz then the waveguide from 700 till rolloff, that way no problems in the most critical listning area of the music..
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