speaker grills
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i wold like to hear what peoples opinion are on what you think the difference, or if there is a difference, when people listen to speakers that can be seen as opposed to ones that are covered by a grill. what i mean is a large grill, like you see on home speakers, and not the round ones that come with car speakers. do you think that people hear differently when they can see the speakers? how does what you see affect what you hear in car audio?
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im not talking about louder, sorry i should have clarified that, im talking about if you were blindfolded and put in a car to listen to it and then got out, removed the blindfold and got back in and listened to the identical tracks again, would you hear it different now that youve had a chance to look at the speakers location etc, and i dont want this to get into a hearing retention discussion, save that for antother day, howe does what we see affect what we hear in car audio
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It certainly has an effect on your perception of the localization of the speakers when you listen to them. It depends on the bias of the listeners though, how much it affects them.
It also depends on if I believe you have speakers behind the grilles....
I believe many SQ competitors put grilles in places to make people believe there are speakers there, when there really isn't anything there. Or even speakers where they aren't connected.
It also depends on if I believe you have speakers behind the grilles....
I believe many SQ competitors put grilles in places to make people believe there are speakers there, when there really isn't anything there. Or even speakers where they aren't connected.
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^ guys, i dont think hes talking about the effect of the grill cloth itself, But the pyschological difference between seeing the speakers location and not.
It can have a great effect on those that listen with there eyes rather then there ears.
It can have a great effect on those that listen with there eyes rather then there ears.
I asked myself the same question one day and decided to listen carefully to my speakers with and without the grills on. I have to say that I did not notice any difference at all. I decided to try the same thing at home, again no difference. I believe your mind can create a difference though if you believe there should be one. I don't believe there should be any noticable difference and perhaps my mind is telling me there isn't.
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Oh most deffinatly.
Hearing is perception. What we hear is so very subjective that it is impossible for anyone to not let sight affect sound. people who are aware of this do a better job of not letting it affect there perception of the sound quality. Although one can never be 100% unbiased when it comes to the perception of sound.
I am reminded of how sight affects sound daily at work (hearing aid clinic). When testing hearing there is a test that requires removing any eyeglasses in order to properly place a bone-vibrator (used to measure bone-conduction thresholds). When removing the eyeglasses at least half of the older clients remark:
"but I hear better with my glasses on".
I personally try to do most of my subjective listning tests before I visually critique any speaker I test.
Hearing is perception. What we hear is so very subjective that it is impossible for anyone to not let sight affect sound. people who are aware of this do a better job of not letting it affect there perception of the sound quality. Although one can never be 100% unbiased when it comes to the perception of sound.
I am reminded of how sight affects sound daily at work (hearing aid clinic). When testing hearing there is a test that requires removing any eyeglasses in order to properly place a bone-vibrator (used to measure bone-conduction thresholds). When removing the eyeglasses at least half of the older clients remark:
"but I hear better with my glasses on".
I personally try to do most of my subjective listning tests before I visually critique any speaker I test.
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Originally posted by chev2:
^ guys, i dont think hes talking about the effect of the grill cloth itself, But the pyschological difference between seeing the speakers location and not.
It can have a great effect on those that listen with there eyes rather then there ears.
^ guys, i dont think hes talking about the effect of the grill cloth itself, But the pyschological difference between seeing the speakers location and not.
It can have a great effect on those that listen with there eyes rather then there ears.
