tonality is easier to get then proper imaging. imaging to me is the most difficult to achieve. very few cars that ive ever listened to manage to keep the image focused without improper shift and loss of focus

 

soundstage and image are totally different animals

 

soundstage is the impression of width and depth, where image is the ralationship of perfromers in that soundstage and there stage presence. i agrree the relationship exists, but you can have one very good and hve the other bad, typically good soundstage but poor imaging. i heard tons of good to great soundstage with very poor imaging at the finals

 

It depends on your definition, in IASCA they are two very different animals, but in alot of peoples minds they are the same thing. I think tonality is harder to do properly, that is something that really never can be perfect.

 

neither can image and stage. i was lucky enough at the finals to be parked right beside anthony davis, ex world champion a few times, 2nd at finals this year, and learned a monumental amount about tuning techniques and the difference between image and stage. he is actaully the main board man for a bunch of live acts. i wish i had more time to talk to him but he was a busy guy

 

So you'd rather your sound be so accurate it sounds like the guitar is being played in your vehicle, but because you don't care about soundstage, it sounds like that guitar is beside your head when it should sound like it's 10 feet infront of you and 3.5 feet in front of the drums???? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

I dunno, Tonality is pretty simple....play with angles and/or eq....plus good equipment to start with helps too.....soundstage takes some patience. </font>[/QUOTE]No, I never said that imaging is unimportant but when I listen to music that I really like, which I do more than listen to music that tries to point out technical flaws in the system, I want it to sound DAMN good.

To me tonality is key - and it's a lot harder than 'playing with an EQ' to achieve great tonality.

Very close in importance to tonality is staging because, simply, it is annoying to have the performers stackup in one spot.

Finally, I look at imaging as it's the hardest to 'play' with and also the easiest to manipulate with the mind and the eye. Yeah this may be the "Holy Grail" of audio competition but I pay little attention to it when I listen to the system everyday - and honestly, if I place two people 3 feet apart, 20 feet and 23 feet away, it's easy to tell which one is on the left and on the right but ****ing hard to tell which one is farther away so to me it's the least important. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

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