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Old 12-14-2005, 11:45 PM
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HOw do you sq oriented ppl tune cars?

My method is..

Play pink noise, and use a spectrum analyzer and balance everything out. Is this the way many do it?

Going by ear doesn't help as cd vary from one to another. thanx for your help

Justin

btw: runing
Phenoix gold x400.1 for sub
phoneix gold x100.4 for mids
sub is focal 33K
front speakers are Focal 165V slim
head unit is Eclipse 8445

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Old 12-15-2005, 12:00 AM
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Are you competing or is this question just for general listening pleasure?

RTA is a good starting point but final tuning should always be done by ear.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:03 AM
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I tune mostly by ear. If I have access to an RTA, I’ll do that to see where I might have some big peaks or valleys or sharp transitions (all of which generally are not desirable). So I use it a secondary device but not primary. I’ll try and listen to a song I’m familiar with, one I’ve heard on many different forms of audio systems and hopefully a song I’ve heard on a system I’ve been impressed by. I’ll listen for something that might be out of place, either too much or not enough. Is the bass guitar too present? Not enough? Is the female voice too shrill or too muted? Is the upper bass bonky or smooth? I’ll try to systematically focus in on specific frequency regions and go from bottom to top and adjust the sound to where I like it. First by crossover, then by eq. That’s all mostly talking about tonality though and not imaging or soundstage.
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Old 12-16-2005, 11:17 AM
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By ear is allways the final and first stage. An RTA helps get you in the ball park and save you time. I know what I like and remember what it looks like on the RTA with pink noise. The RTA is an snap shot on what it looks like because your ear can fool you. In the final stage or coment do you listen with your eyes or ears.

The other day my wife took me to the live performance that had the full orchastra and band. Wow! I listened with my eyes closed and boy it was diferent. I had teares running down my face in pure joy on what I was listening to. now if ony I can capture that sound on an TRA and reproduce it in the car.

Any way good luck.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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I do it all by ear but I would like to get my hands on one of these analyzers to give me an idea of how flat my listening preferences are. For the most part I only have problems tuning my sub, the midbass and midrange speakers are a lot easier.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:13 PM
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Know the recording on the CD is quite important also......

90% ear
10% analyzer
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i drink a dozen beer then go out to my car and crank on the iron maiden, 2 minutes to midnight, and when my ears start to ring iam done tunning, hair metal rules!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by goalie 35:
i drink a dozen beer then go out to my car and crank on the iron maiden, 2 minutes to midnight, and when my ears start to ring iam done tunning, hair metal rules!!!!!!!!!
yup!........ thats why all amps and CD players sound the same right??
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The score:

Sweetnlow91SC = 1
Goalie35 = 0

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Old 12-17-2005, 11:55 AM
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finally joe you are beginning to see the light. yes all amps sound the same under driving conditions, all decks sound the same under driving conditions, ported boxes all sound brutal, but my 150 buck a foot pheonix gold speaker wire, sounds better than your kimber cable wire!!! get my point............... no.. didnt think so!
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