Can you beat Knukonceptz's prices anywhere in Canada ?
500 Watt CAFz'r
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I've never seen more flexible wire than the Connection wire from Eletromedia, distributed by Trends http://www.connectionaudison.com/ .
And talk about nice! I doubt anything compares from the engineering and esthetiques, to the results you get.
Which begs the question, what do you expect from "cheap" wire, as opposed to quality cable ?
And talk about nice! I doubt anything compares from the engineering and esthetiques, to the results you get.
Which begs the question, what do you expect from "cheap" wire, as opposed to quality cable ?
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Joined: Sep 2005
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make shure that all wire conforms to a.w.g. spec's that will eliminate the chance of getting 10ga smaller than 12a.w.g.
there are two standards american wire gage and crap (undersized chinese wire with lots of impurities)
be aware this only effects the diamiter not the flexability
if it sounds too good to be true it probably is
there are two standards american wire gage and crap (undersized chinese wire with lots of impurities)
be aware this only effects the diamiter not the flexability
if it sounds too good to be true it probably is
You get what you pay for, The Knu wire is cheap offshore garbage that is marketed to the the consumer who does not know the difference between a good wire and a cheap one. There are many brands of cheap offshore crap that claim to be 8 gauge power wire for example that are actually the equivalent of a 12 gauge speaker wire (and the speaker wire still has a higher strand count). Get good wire, do it right the first time.
[ October 11, 2005, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: MR2NR ]
[ October 11, 2005, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: MR2NR ]
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Does anyone actually have any Knu wire (say in 4 gauge ) that they can sure an actual comparison with "better" wire ? That is what I'd like to see for myself. In the end, I'm very sure ALL wire is made offshore and just labeled for whoever buys it.
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Originally posted by Dukk:
I have some Knu 4ga left over from a car (guy brought it in) and some 4ga Streetwires left over from my car.
I may have some 4ga RF lying around too still..
Good enuf for a comparo?
I have some Knu 4ga left over from a car (guy brought it in) and some 4ga Streetwires left over from my car.
I may have some 4ga RF lying around too still..
Good enuf for a comparo?
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To interject....all this talk about what's better wire? Is that not your seller/installer's job to choose?
I mean really.....as a seller/installer, I'd rather use my expertise to just buy, and sell wire, at a price according to what it's worth, and if it's going to make my install "shine" or "not".
Buy your wire from me, and know that you're getting the best job I can do.
Based on a wealth of good opinions, but having no personal experience, is taking a first step.
If you can afford an experienced installer, he'll spend his time wisely, to achieve an overall better outcome, than is usual for a beginner.
If not, then you're on the right track....ask All the questions.
The trick is in asking the right questions.
How can I save $0.50 a ft on wire is not a good question.
All I know, is that I charge 60 bux an hour.......that's $1.00 a minute, and I'm not gonna waste my time or your money figuring out how many seconds, a $0.016666.. per second, if I'll save a nickle getting a better deal on the wire.
As long as it's "Good Enough" to do the job, I'll be worried about the crossover points, phase cancellations, ugly reflections, proper port length, fit and fitment, and a hundred other details that actually make a difference that you can perceive.
If I'm rambling, it's cause we just bottled a couple 'a batches of wine.....and ys know, ya can't let those 3/4 full bottles sit......and it was what you'd expect
Anyway...back to my ramble......
Find an installer that cares, and support him, and spend your time doin what you know how to do.
Who cares if you can beat whoever's price on an insignificant percentage of your overall cost, (including your time, research, and production).
Be worried about getting it right!.
[ October 15, 2005, 12:34 AM: Message edited by: Starterwiz ]
I mean really.....as a seller/installer, I'd rather use my expertise to just buy, and sell wire, at a price according to what it's worth, and if it's going to make my install "shine" or "not".
Buy your wire from me, and know that you're getting the best job I can do.
Based on a wealth of good opinions, but having no personal experience, is taking a first step.
If you can afford an experienced installer, he'll spend his time wisely, to achieve an overall better outcome, than is usual for a beginner.
If not, then you're on the right track....ask All the questions.
The trick is in asking the right questions.
How can I save $0.50 a ft on wire is not a good question.
All I know, is that I charge 60 bux an hour.......that's $1.00 a minute, and I'm not gonna waste my time or your money figuring out how many seconds, a $0.016666.. per second, if I'll save a nickle getting a better deal on the wire.
As long as it's "Good Enough" to do the job, I'll be worried about the crossover points, phase cancellations, ugly reflections, proper port length, fit and fitment, and a hundred other details that actually make a difference that you can perceive.
If I'm rambling, it's cause we just bottled a couple 'a batches of wine.....and ys know, ya can't let those 3/4 full bottles sit......and it was what you'd expect
Anyway...back to my ramble......
Find an installer that cares, and support him, and spend your time doin what you know how to do.
Who cares if you can beat whoever's price on an insignificant percentage of your overall cost, (including your time, research, and production).
Be worried about getting it right!.
[ October 15, 2005, 12:34 AM: Message edited by: Starterwiz ]
