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Old 07-13-2004, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by mike bisson:
It's their ball and they are taking it home with them.
LOL.. Bout 15 years ago canada used to participate in a "TopGun" Training competition scenerio with the US. The 14 Day excurision ended 9 days early as the US didn't have a plane/pilot left to continue.

They havn't invited Canada Since.
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Old 07-13-2004, 05:21 PM
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Ive seen the avro arrow movie on cbc a couple times, pretty interesting. Somehow I get the feeling they play it up quite a bit for dramatic effect. They say the plane was so fast and could fly so high but the thing probably had the manoeverability of a 747 and the range of big block chevy. [img]graemlins/cf2.gif[/img]
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:56 AM
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How is a 2G turn tight when modern jets can do 11+G turns but the pilots can only take them to 9Gs before they will pass out. Like i said, not to be anti-patriotic or anything, but i think it's played up.
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Old 07-16-2004, 05:29 AM
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The biggest part is that Canada was on top of the aeronautics game, and our government kicked us out of the running. We created the best combat aircraft in the world and our government, instead of encouraging our own aeronautics industry, they kowtow'd to the americans and we've been paying for it since.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
Because it is 50 years later. This plane was designed and built in the 1950's, of course modern jets can outperform them. The Avro was the first plane that could break mach 2, up to that point mach 1.5 or higher meant kiss your *** goodbye. It's like SPL, to me 160 was a turning point, when Alma hit that it opened up a whole new world and now there are cars in the mid 170's.
Alma wasn't the first one over 160....

And as far as I know, the Arrow wasn't the first over mach 2 either... the sr-71 was a top secret deal for a long time before it "debuted". It was used as a high altitude spy plane during the cold war - unoffically of course
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Old 07-17-2004, 05:33 AM
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yeah I saw that movie
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Old 07-17-2004, 07:30 AM
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Was the SR-71 operational in the 50s though? I thought the U2 was the spy plane that preceeded the SR-71. The Avro was cool. We watched the CBC thing back in high school over 10 years ago now. It kinda reminds me of a F14, which is neat because that came out like 20+ years later. And don't forget the F18 Hornet though. From what I understood, that plane (Canadian designed) was superior to the F14 or F15s.
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Originally posted by DWVW:
Because it is 50 years later. This plane was designed and built in the 1950's, of course modern jets can outperform them. The Avro was the first plane that could break mach 2, up to that point mach 1.5 or higher meant kiss your *** goodbye. It's like SPL, to me 160 was a turning point, when Alma hit that it opened up a whole new world and now there are cars in the mid 170's.
Nicely explained.

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