MB

ok, first before u comment, please go see the replay ... its a must!

now onto my venting .... I hate the leafs and I am an avid habs fan living the middle of the "blindest" fans in hockey. I cheer for the habs in the worst times and living in Toronto I see how turely blind Toronto Leafs fans are ... I dn't know if they just do it because of ignorance or if its just that they don't want to beleive it.

Now, how can people say that Belak had no intent and didn't deserve his suspension? do people really think players should not be responsible for what they do with thier stick? Over the past day (especially on TV, dumbass reporters), I have heard everything from "Belak didn't hit him that hard" to "Belak didn't mean it" and "If it weren't for the Bertuzzi thing, Belak would've just got a 5 min penalty"

what are you blind? Belak went head hunting ... something has to be done to take this kind of stuff out of hockey, it HAS to stop

again, watch the replay, Belak went head hunting. I feel that this was worse than Bertuzzi's and more along the lines (but not that close) to McSorely's.

Also, whats with Messier? How did he only get 2 games for almost putting his stick through someone's mid-section

I have my flame suit on, so I know I'm gonna get ripped for this .... so hit me with all you got!!!

and before I leave, GO HABS GO!!! [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

ZachCHartwell

I agree fully with you, even though I am a leafs fan. An end has to be put to this sort of crap.

Gmac

The 8 games he got is not enough for a two handed slah to the head while not premeditated like mcsorley it was still intention and a deliberet attempt to injure.

The speer was stupisd but it is not going to do any real damage, stupid but it is not going to do any real damage.

Hardcore Rock Superstar

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i agree that was a pretty blatent slash to the head. I'm not sure 8 games should suffice...well i guess in the NHL 8 games is a fair amount. On a related note, i don't think Messiers spear to the junk is worth of only two games...i think that shoulda been closer to 5! Or wait, did he miss 2 games before they're deciding he'd miss 2 more?

Either way, i hope all 6 canadian teams make the playoffs!

As far as the NHL as a whole go's....i'm sure it's only cause of the Bertuzzi (which i still believe wasn't all bertuzzi's fault...he hit the guy, yes he did, and then the guy fell down to the ice, bertuzzi tried to hold him up and moore's skates tripped up bertuzzi who awkwardly fell ontop of moore - clearly an accident that coulda happened to anyone) but as i was sayin before, if it wasn't for the Bertuzzi incident, i don't think any of these would be so widely publicized!


Lastly, i still believe fans for hte most part are clueless. Generally speaking, people who have never played hockey are clueless too! Seems they're the worst kinda fans, they've never stepped a foot on ice yet they think they know everything! Arg...

JohnnyToronto

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I'm just pissed cause Messier did it on purpose and got **** on a stick, and he's always a dirty player.
Yeah Belak deserved a suspension, but if you see the replay he wasn't even looking at the guy when he hit him.
How is that intentional?
Oh well.
Habs fan eh? How great would that be, Leafs Habs playoffs series...

slow/n\low

Its just another example of the League punishing the result and not the action.

Bertuzzi's suspension is deserved but his punishment was the result of the injury to Moore.

Belak only got 8 games because the player was not injured the play. what happens if that player turns out to be another Brian Berard? or worse? then does belak get more??

The leagues suspensions are a joke, and the Bertuzzi incident did nothing to deter players from anything!!!

Belak needs to be in control of his stick!. There is no reason for that to ever happen, regardless of balance. He spun around with recklessness and he should have had min 30 games.

Maybe if the suspensions start to get serious, player will learn to control themselves. Right now there is no deterant.


Oh and what about Audette?? 1 game for Kicking????? HELLO THAT IS A SKATE!! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

Blinddemonz

Johnny makes a good point which is why I chose to quote it. But first of all Im not saying what happened is right and should be allowed. I think u really need to watch that replay again considering he was NOT looking at the guy and if u look HE WAS OFF BALANCE! U gotta be in control of your stick but there is NO WAY he was doing it intentionally. I have been playing hockey myself for 12 years I know how heated things get on the ice when someone upsets you or for whatever reason and yes most of the excessive violence NEEDS to be taken out of hockey but no offence to you men, Men are Men you get pissed off you vent however way possible. Its stress built up. Im glad Belak didnt get more than 8 gamez for the fact that it was an accident sure maybe he went head hunting but I dont think he would be stupid enough to do what he did ON PURPOSE VOLUNTARILY after what he saw happened to McSorely and Bertuzzi! Watch the replay a couple more times the guy was off balance take ur habs crown off n look at it from a normal persons perspective. And if there was a Habs vs Leafs series OMG there'd be a lot of ppl and a LOT of money raking in lol I just hope we dont have to play Ottawa again wtih their retarded ban of leaf jerseys because we seem to have mor efans that show up than they do lol And even to get grilled for saying this when Bertuzzi "shoved him into the ice" when ur goin down ur goin down ur weight goez with u, the punch was intentional, the grabbing of the shirt was intentional but therez a possibility that the "shoved him into the ice" part was not.

Don't believe me n wanna grill me, watch the replay first Belak was off balance.



[ March 23, 2004, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: boominZ24 ]

Hardcore Rock Superstar

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i pretty well agree with what selane said in his interview the other day, where he could barely talk....the players don't have enough respect for each other. Line brawl's....whatever they happen.

playing hockey since i was 3...going on 18ish years...yeah people get heated up...but not once have i ever lost my cool and snapped on someone. I've played some decent hockey here n there...played NAA and althoguh clearly to lazy to play junior or deal with their crap, i've played with a lotta junior, college guys, and even dub guys, and a couple nhl'ers here and there...and still i blame no one but the players themselves. Sometimes things are accidents (maybe belak) but it's still no excuse. If you can't learn to accidentally not two hand someone's head with your stick...then remove your head from your ***. Same with messier spears such, i can't imagine a spear to the junk feels a lot better - messier should get repeatedly speared in the junk for punishment. And Bertuzzi, although i respect him very much and think he's the best or one of the best at very least all around players in the league (as of a couple weeks ago lol) he's gotta remove his head from his *** too!

Heated tension...so what learn to control it! You can be a fiesty player out there and play with a lot of emotion, and the good players will - but yeah anywho. Bertuzzi screwed up...he completely knows it, and it's messin with a bunch of his career for it.


All in all, maybe if moore's injuries wouldn't have been like they were....we wouldn't be having this topic, bertuzzi would still be a hero in everyone else's eyes, not just mine and yeah!

JohnnyToronto

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I dunno what to say, Messier's play was clearly worse, as he did it purposely, to injure and got jack ****.
Belak didn't even hurt the guy, that's no excuse, but think of it this was, that homo Hossa basically took out Berards eye, that was unintentional, way worse, and did he even get suspended? I can't even remember, if he did, I know it wasn't anywhere near 8 games.

***Edit*** I also forgot about that gutless move by another Ottawa Senator, Havlat. He friggin cross checked Recchi in the FACE on PURPOSE, and if it wasn't for the visor would've surely broken bones in his face. What the hell did he get? 2 friggin games? That was a joke for sure. He was also a repeat offender, don't forgot how he KICKED a guy earlier in the season.
And Belak gets 8? Just think of the two incidents I just mentioned, intentional (Havlat)and unintentional (Hossa) and think of the damage they did, and the punishment they got, before commenting on Belak. Sure he should be suspended, but 8 games? That's a JOKE.

[ March 23, 2004, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyToronto ]

Blinddemonz

I wasnt saying to do it the point i was making was that it happens. And maybe Alberta Hockey around my age and a bit younger is different than Ontario hockey at least where I come from it happens A LOT.