Totem Acoustics at A&B Sound?!?
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Originally posted by DWVW:
AE is Acoustic Energy, one of my favorite speaker companies. I beleive that the Listen Inn (affiliated with Stay Tuned in Lethbridge) had some Moon stuff on Demo, didn't get to hear it. Creek is my favorite amp right now, but I would have to say Proceed for theater.
AE is Acoustic Energy, one of my favorite speaker companies. I beleive that the Listen Inn (affiliated with Stay Tuned in Lethbridge) had some Moon stuff on Demo, didn't get to hear it. Creek is my favorite amp right now, but I would have to say Proceed for theater.
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Nope, I certainly DON'T work at Advance. Just my opinion. I was pretty surprised when they stoppped selling Creative Audio and moved to Advance. I think that those speakers are not going to sound like prospective buyers will expect them to sound. The last time I was in A&B the salesguy was using a low-end receiver to demo the Mites to someone. After hearing them driven by Classe, Aragon and Linn units with the same audio selection (Bright sunshiny day from Holy Cole) there is a total lack of sound stage and quality. Even the Pioneer Elite isn't that great, but it is better.
I still think that having these speakers sold with ill-siuted equipment from a chain retailler is going to cast a shadow on Totems name in the long run, they make excellent speakers.
J
Nope, I certainly DON'T work at Advance. Just my opinion. I was pretty surprised when they stoppped selling Creative Audio and moved to Advance. I think that those speakers are not going to sound like prospective buyers will expect them to sound. The last time I was in A&B the salesguy was using a low-end receiver to demo the Mites to someone. After hearing them driven by Classe, Aragon and Linn units with the same audio selection (Bright sunshiny day from Holy Cole) there is a total lack of sound stage and quality. Even the Pioneer Elite isn't that great, but it is better.
I still think that having these speakers sold with ill-siuted equipment from a chain retailler is going to cast a shadow on Totems name in the long run, they make excellent speakers.
J
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"... I'm going to spending a lot of time at A&B sound..."
That's too bad.
A little friendly advice - leave your wallet at home and keep your *** to the wall..
Looks like a lot of the cabinets on the Totem site use Dynaudio drivers. I have never understood paying big cash for a cabinet when you could buy the drivers yourself for 1/4 the cost and make your own cabinets and passives. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Maybe I'm just a cheapass
That's too bad.
A little friendly advice - leave your wallet at home and keep your *** to the wall..Looks like a lot of the cabinets on the Totem site use Dynaudio drivers. I have never understood paying big cash for a cabinet when you could buy the drivers yourself for 1/4 the cost and make your own cabinets and passives. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Maybe I'm just a cheapass
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Dukk, that is completely true.
My current HT setup is comprised completely of Vifa drivers in some cabinets I made with passives reaching near the same cost as the drivers!
Most of the Totem lines use Dynaudio, while the Arro's are a Peerless driver, the Hawk's are a Scanspeak Rev mid, and I think some of their tweeters are Hiquphon, but I haven't really looked.
Essentially, the equipment side of Totems $6000 sets costs them well under $1000. I guess the other $5000 is made up for in advertisement, engineering and cabinet costs.
If you have the will, make yourself some nice DIY projects with some Scan's, or Seas, or Eton, hell, just go to Madisound and take your pick... you'd be surprised at how much you'll learn about speaker design, and how great of a sound you can get for a good price.
***Edit*** A-Rok on Tahoes? computer.
[ October 13, 2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Tahoe? ]
My current HT setup is comprised completely of Vifa drivers in some cabinets I made with passives reaching near the same cost as the drivers!
Most of the Totem lines use Dynaudio, while the Arro's are a Peerless driver, the Hawk's are a Scanspeak Rev mid, and I think some of their tweeters are Hiquphon, but I haven't really looked.
Essentially, the equipment side of Totems $6000 sets costs them well under $1000. I guess the other $5000 is made up for in advertisement, engineering and cabinet costs.
If you have the will, make yourself some nice DIY projects with some Scan's, or Seas, or Eton, hell, just go to Madisound and take your pick... you'd be surprised at how much you'll learn about speaker design, and how great of a sound you can get for a good price.
***Edit*** A-Rok on Tahoes? computer.
[ October 13, 2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Tahoe? ]
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Originally posted by Dukk:
"... I'm going to spending a lot of time at A&B sound..."
That's too bad. A little friendly advice - leave your wallet at home and keep your *** to the wall..
Looks like a lot of the cabinets on the Totem site use Dynaudio drivers.
I have never understood paying big cash for a cabinet when you could buy the drivers yourself for 1/4 the cost and make your own cabinets and passives. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Maybe I'm just a cheapass
"... I'm going to spending a lot of time at A&B sound..."
That's too bad.
A little friendly advice - leave your wallet at home and keep your *** to the wall..Looks like a lot of the cabinets on the Totem site use Dynaudio drivers.
I have never understood paying big cash for a cabinet when you could buy the drivers yourself for 1/4 the cost and make your own cabinets and passives. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Maybe I'm just a cheapass
[ October 13, 2003, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: cujo ]
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Originally posted by cujo:
Yes you are. And obviously the speakers aren't built for an expert like yourself. They are built for a person who appreciates the matched, non-flawed veneer, the build quality of the cabinet, the quality components used in the hand built crossovers and the years of research and testing that lead to a beautifull sounding and extremely well reviewed speaker line. Things a lot of other companies and DIY'ers have tried and failed at.
Yes you are. And obviously the speakers aren't built for an expert like yourself. They are built for a person who appreciates the matched, non-flawed veneer, the build quality of the cabinet, the quality components used in the hand built crossovers and the years of research and testing that lead to a beautifull sounding and extremely well reviewed speaker line. Things a lot of other companies and DIY'ers have tried and failed at.
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None of it was untrue but it read like a promo ad for any overpriced furniture with speakers installed into it. I find it amusing also that generally 70%-ish of all home speaker systems sold are in black <- go on about wood all ya want black is by far the consumers' preference. And as far as long hours in engineering, if the drivers are standard OEM offerings then all you have to play with is the box and the passive xover and really, while not everyone can do it, it ain't all that hard.
I frequent a lot of european speaker making boards and it is kind of funny how in North America if you get a guy who takes a bunch of drives and makes his own system most people will consider him a cheapass looking to hack a system together but in Europe he would be looked at as a true audiophile searching for the perfect sound for him - something he cannot buy.
Perspective I guess.
I frequent a lot of european speaker making boards and it is kind of funny how in North America if you get a guy who takes a bunch of drives and makes his own system most people will consider him a cheapass looking to hack a system together but in Europe he would be looked at as a true audiophile searching for the perfect sound for him - something he cannot buy.
Perspective I guess.
