Iasca
probaly no iasca for me this year, unless shows are close. 2004/2005 i did both just to compare and i think i like db drag format better.
prostock idea is silly and there are already classes for people who dont hit too high it's called BASSBOXING!!!!! and BASS RACE!!!! the industry affiliation rule is one big loophole. db drag did it best they have mini street that can be used in any way a show promoter decides AND they provided bass race. if u suck too much for street class there are always those 2 other formats for u. i think people complain too much and it doesnt matter how many classes there are everyone wants to win........without even trying. u can have all the rookie or newb classes u want and even then people will bitch if they know they are not guaranteed a win.
as far as the iasca in ontario goes......last year it was bad planning and poor event promotion. i can could never understand why all the main iasca events here were held in the middle of no where away from EVERYTHING and EVERYONE?
db drag was pretty low as well last year but it's going to go up this season
prostock idea is silly and there are already classes for people who dont hit too high it's called BASSBOXING!!!!! and BASS RACE!!!! the industry affiliation rule is one big loophole. db drag did it best they have mini street that can be used in any way a show promoter decides AND they provided bass race. if u suck too much for street class there are always those 2 other formats for u. i think people complain too much and it doesnt matter how many classes there are everyone wants to win........without even trying. u can have all the rookie or newb classes u want and even then people will bitch if they know they are not guaranteed a win.
as far as the iasca in ontario goes......last year it was bad planning and poor event promotion. i can could never understand why all the main iasca events here were held in the middle of no where away from EVERYTHING and EVERYONE?
db drag was pretty low as well last year but it's going to go up this season
Originally Posted by NTenseProductions
Chris B... you have confused me!!!
First you said that IASCA has died off since 2003. Which happens to mean that you are saying that it has died off since Moe has taken it over in Ontario. Last year Moe was still up here and did many events and was quite upset that you didn't show up. SVR 2005, you showed up but didn't compete for IASCA. Also, Cayuga, did you compete there?
First you said that IASCA has died off since 2003. Which happens to mean that you are saying that it has died off since Moe has taken it over in Ontario. Last year Moe was still up here and did many events and was quite upset that you didn't show up. SVR 2005, you showed up but didn't compete for IASCA. Also, Cayuga, did you compete there?
IASCA in 2003 was the best year I've seen it, 2004 it was as well, 2005 starting to drop a little, and this year it appears to have dropped a lot.. I hope that makes more sense
I have my reasons for not competing in certain events in the past, I'm not going into detail on here though
Now you are saying that it is worst since Moe left. Do you like Moe seriously? Do you realize that everytime you put down IASCA, You are putting down Moe? Moe is the Director of IASCA. If you don't like IASCA then stick to DB Drag and don't knock it. I am sure that Moe reads these posts and he may see it the way I do.
Pro Stock is the start of filtering stock. From what I heard in 2005, the plan for 2007 was to take guys such as Yuli, Da Silva, etc and bump them. You should tell Moe how you feel, not the world wide web.
As for the death of it in Ontario, the competitors have killed it. Look at DB Drag in Ontario, what bs we went through in 2004. Everybody supported a dead organization. 2005, Db Drag went to the west and left Ontario with nothing. Everybody did what they could to support it and keep it going and succeeded. Why don't people do that for IASCA?
There were many shows last year in Ontario with Moe and IASCA and the support was low. He had a better opportunity in the States and he took it. Good for him. If you feel that you know what IASCA needs to do to get back on top. I know that Moe is looking for his replacement up here... Call him.
I don't have the time or motivation to do what it takes to put any organization back on the map up here anymore, I will help however I can, but I'm not going to invest tons into it
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These 2 organizations do have different formats. You can like one or the other but I find that alot of competitors will do both because they are enthusiasts and will compete as much as they can. Strong enthusiasts will travel almost anywhere as well.
Middle of no where is still in Ontario. We are discussing Ontario and the East. not just the GTA. I know that you don't like leaving your backyard but the rest of Ontario don't feel that they should have to go to the GTA for every show either.
Planning and promoting... shows were planned and promoted equally as far as I am concerned. If anything, I seen DB Drag events planned less than 2 weeks ahead of the show date where IASCA was at least a month. Promoting was done by forums, organization websites and word of mouth, both were done the same.
Formats ... this one is up to the individual. Everyone has their own preference. Both have their own benefits. I will not argue with that.
IASCA classes .... Both Yuli and Chris have great points as far as newb's and stuff go but you both know Moe well and you should tell him that to help him. I told him that all last year but it takes more than one person to do that.
Mark and Chris C are doing a great thing for the industry this year. Doing free shows for everyone shows me that their preference is DB Drag because IDBL would be cheaper to run. That is their choice of preference though. I am sure that if Mark and Chris C decided on IASCA instead of DB Drag... people would be on here saying the opposite thing. Hats off to Mark and Chris C for their support to the industry.
The industry itself has been dying off in the last few years, Ontario competitors need to support all shows that they can to keep it going. It doesnt matter if its Db Drag, Iasca, Meca, Usaci, usuck, isuck, cspl, local events. Competitors need to help by word of mouth, tell your mom, help the newb's, kick your neighbour's dog.... Support the industry.
Middle of no where is still in Ontario. We are discussing Ontario and the East. not just the GTA. I know that you don't like leaving your backyard but the rest of Ontario don't feel that they should have to go to the GTA for every show either.
Planning and promoting... shows were planned and promoted equally as far as I am concerned. If anything, I seen DB Drag events planned less than 2 weeks ahead of the show date where IASCA was at least a month. Promoting was done by forums, organization websites and word of mouth, both were done the same.
Formats ... this one is up to the individual. Everyone has their own preference. Both have their own benefits. I will not argue with that.
IASCA classes .... Both Yuli and Chris have great points as far as newb's and stuff go but you both know Moe well and you should tell him that to help him. I told him that all last year but it takes more than one person to do that.
Mark and Chris C are doing a great thing for the industry this year. Doing free shows for everyone shows me that their preference is DB Drag because IDBL would be cheaper to run. That is their choice of preference though. I am sure that if Mark and Chris C decided on IASCA instead of DB Drag... people would be on here saying the opposite thing. Hats off to Mark and Chris C for their support to the industry.
The industry itself has been dying off in the last few years, Ontario competitors need to support all shows that they can to keep it going. It doesnt matter if its Db Drag, Iasca, Meca, Usaci, usuck, isuck, cspl, local events. Competitors need to help by word of mouth, tell your mom, help the newb's, kick your neighbour's dog.... Support the industry.
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Chris
The things that you say on forums can be read differently. The things about IASCA on here are negative. The thread was IASCA...Anybody interested? If you arent interested skip to the next topic.
As for competitors killing it, I for one talk to newb's. In alot of cases they say that they don't like having their asses handed to them or being mislead by other competitors. Newb's get out of competition quicker than they come into it.
You have supported this industry probably the most in the last few years. You have done so much for competition in Ontario and everyone should know that. Why so much negativity?
I am not here to offend you, we have done alot of work together and you are great to work with. However, I see a change in your posts lately.... maybe its the haircut.
The things that you say on forums can be read differently. The things about IASCA on here are negative. The thread was IASCA...Anybody interested? If you arent interested skip to the next topic.
As for competitors killing it, I for one talk to newb's. In alot of cases they say that they don't like having their asses handed to them or being mislead by other competitors. Newb's get out of competition quicker than they come into it.
You have supported this industry probably the most in the last few years. You have done so much for competition in Ontario and everyone should know that. Why so much negativity?
I am not here to offend you, we have done alot of work together and you are great to work with. However, I see a change in your posts lately.... maybe its the haircut.
Originally Posted by NTenseProductions
Chris
As for competitors killing it, I for one talk to newb's. In alot of cases they say that they don't like having their asses handed to them or being mislead by other competitors. Newb's get out of competition quicker than they come into it.
As for competitors killing it, I for one talk to newb's. In alot of cases they say that they don't like having their asses handed to them or being mislead by other competitors. Newb's get out of competition quicker than they come into it.
I am not here to offend you, we have done alot of work together and you are great to work with. However, I see a change in your posts lately.... maybe its the haircut.
I will not go into them on here though My thoughts have been expressed to the oppropriate people though and still waiting on a resolution
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just to throw a wrench in it .....
last year 2005....there was 5 competing extreme vehicles in canada....3 in ab and 2 in bc...and this year it is still 5...i remember when there was a shiest load in ont....i went to audio thunder 5 years ago and there was about 200 competitors at the show....and it was db drags spl and iasca sq....it was huge...there is no way that it is the same anymore......
now here is the rub.....i have been informed that there were shows here in the okanagan and western canada that were 100 plus cars each...and that they happened all the time and with repeated numbers of competitiors....and guess what ..it was all iasca....
things were cheaper then.....but hey....we(west and east) went from these awesomely attended shows... to parking lot, 20 car, scarcely located shows.
the support in canada cannot be blamed on MOE...korbon....db drag...or iasca..or usaci........or the states....we are arguing over a larger picture that is not under our control......all hail the import and performance show.....they are massive these days....funkmaster flex must be one happy ******. lets just keep doing what weve always done....compete and go louder....pointing fingers isnt the solution....which one is better..iasca of course......just kidding.....everyone is entitled to thier opinion.....and both db drags and iasca are not what they used to be....
justr remember one thing......support your local shows......and that is that....no?
last year 2005....there was 5 competing extreme vehicles in canada....3 in ab and 2 in bc...and this year it is still 5...i remember when there was a shiest load in ont....i went to audio thunder 5 years ago and there was about 200 competitors at the show....and it was db drags spl and iasca sq....it was huge...there is no way that it is the same anymore......
now here is the rub.....i have been informed that there were shows here in the okanagan and western canada that were 100 plus cars each...and that they happened all the time and with repeated numbers of competitiors....and guess what ..it was all iasca....
things were cheaper then.....but hey....we(west and east) went from these awesomely attended shows... to parking lot, 20 car, scarcely located shows.
the support in canada cannot be blamed on MOE...korbon....db drag...or iasca..or usaci........or the states....we are arguing over a larger picture that is not under our control......all hail the import and performance show.....they are massive these days....funkmaster flex must be one happy ******. lets just keep doing what weve always done....compete and go louder....pointing fingers isnt the solution....which one is better..iasca of course......just kidding.....everyone is entitled to thier opinion.....and both db drags and iasca are not what they used to be....
justr remember one thing......support your local shows......and that is that....no?
Originally Posted by Team Shadow
the support in canada cannot be blamed on MOE...korbon....db drag...or iasca..or usaci........or the states....we are arguing over a larger picture that is not under our control......all hail the import and performance show.....they are massive these days....funkmaster flex must be one happy ******. lets just keep doing what weve always done....compete and go louder....pointing fingers isnt the solution....which one is better..iasca of course......just kidding.....everyone is entitled to thier opinion.....and both db drags and iasca are not what they used to be....
justr remember one thing......support your local shows......and that is that....no?
justr remember one thing......support your local shows......and that is that....no?
i dont like to leave my back yard?? i did go to iasca finals in 2004 did i not? i even brought my own car. iasca should keep holding shows in fields and little hick towns that should turn out well. yah not everyone wants to drive to GTA.....ok so u let's make everyone from the GTA drive to some corn field by niagara falls. im really confused as to why holding shows in some weird offsite is advantageus over holding shows in a central location like GTA??? whoever is in charge of marketing needs to fired. u remember cauga last year?? what 10 cars there?? u remember the free show we had?? u know it was 40+ vehicles and it was not even a 2x or a 3x event. the show was in the GTA, everyone know exactly how to get there, it was immidiately accessible from TWO main highways, we put in effort in promoting it to the right audiance and the show ROCKED. Jeff u know this, u were a part of it. If u recall almost 3/4 of the competitors there were newbs and everyone still had TONS of fun. people came from far and wide and left happy.
i have nothing against iasca and i love Moe but i think he should not have left, he was the best at putting on shows, promoting and hyping everything it all up.
i have nothing against iasca and i love Moe but i think he should not have left, he was the best at putting on shows, promoting and hyping everything it all up.
