spl builders wife

There is not enough interest out here for a training to happen...everyone wants it and then when it comes time to step up to the plate it gets very quiet....zzzzz would come out...so might goalie35...and a few...but u won't get 20 to 30 guys out... Robert hosts more and more shows...they aint free and they aint cheap...having a judge isn't hard...having a knowledgable judge is hard...guys who are knowlegdable don't want to be judges and guys that want to be judges aren't knowledgable....experince is key...hosting a training to certify rookie judges is a start...but it will be a long and I mean long process to get quality certified judges...robert is starting the process by attending traning in florida...and jason coming out west is another step...anotjher one is to not slam someone for taking steps in the right direction...full speed ahead...good on ya iasca

Brian Sanders

Last I heard it was a hell of a lot more pricey than running a 1x dbdrag which costs $100 usd. The only difference is the judge which is mainly for the sound quality cars anyway. And of course the bulky equipment compared to dbdrags termlab software and sensor kit. Its difficult for a new promotor to shell out the big dollars for the ac190 when they can spend 1/3 the amount and just get a termlab which is much more widely used around the world and more reliable.

IMO you could pay $100 usd to run a 1x dbdrag event which would be more likely to get the louder cars out who are collecting points for finals (because dbdrag finals actually has cars show up for it) and pay your local certified iasca SQ judge or any other worth candidate another $100 to judge for the day and you're still ahead of the game.

In order for iasca to come alive you need 3 things:
crowd involvement- bass boxing
cheaper events- iasca event costs should be lowered so promotors can afford to do more shows which will farther promote both iasca and their shops.
more promotors- lets face it...it doesnt take a rocket scientist to look at a car and place it in a class and then place the sensor on the windshield using the jig. I dont think SPL promotors should need any training really. SQ promotors yes of course. But more promotors are definitely needed if IASCA is to stay alive

I think if these 4 problems are addressed it will bring the serious competitors back who are willing to travel long distances, collect points and actually attend finals. But this needs to be done throughout the world...not just canada and not just western canada. World finals for IASCA will more than likely be in southeastern US again which makes it very difficult for western canadians to make the trip. But when hardly an southeastern americans show up either, you know theres an issue.

spl builders wife

anyone and thier mother can run a db drag...and it does happen...ive seen idiots that have no clue how to run a db drag show...run it... like i said...having a quality judge is hard...db drag or iasca...

when was the last time you saw a street car run his car at db drag finals....only in western canada...not at world finals...

just cause it is cheaper to run the show....doesnt make it correct. ive seen battery rules go out the door...ive seen electrical rules go out the door....and this from a 3x certified db drag judge.

in a small show....sure 100 bucks goes far...everyone places...and everyone wins...have you seen the trophies at your local 1x db drag show....none too existent...

have you seen the trophies at a 1x iasca show...little bit larger....that is what costs...

face it....5 guys from bc...and about 5-10 guys from alberta go to finals....if that....and this number decreases if it is not held in california....hosting a 1x db drag show to cater to 15 (max guys) to get thier points is nice....but it leaves out everyone else..

db drag is fun....all spl and sq is fun...but when you are on top....being 9th in a category and being eliminated after one run is bogus...db drag oes that.....at a large show...where there are 50 competitors....what happens to the other 11 rookies that came out....sorry too bad...you are eliminated after one run....thanks for coming...i can see how this totally makes you want to continue...and put more money in it...

db drag...iasca...usaci....meca....needs to cater to everyone...spl elite....and spl rookie....sq...extreme....everyone....db drag caters to one person only....the one with the biggest wallet and the best product.....all prefab 2 woofer in abox dudes.....sorry ....no 150....go home....your not wanted here....

last year......and roberts shows hosted over 50% of thier competitors as rookies....brand new guys that took a tropie home...and will come back this year...those same guys in db drag ...would have to compete against crx's with dd...atomic...etc....against hardcore competitors....cause that is the classification...

all shows are fun....and iasca....nor db drag are going away....having both makes the choice better....and makes more shows....heck i hate usaci...but it helps to have another chioce just cause its another show and possibly another trophy...

in the usa...there are over 8 sanctions....slap....meca....nespl...db drag, iasca, usaci...and a few more that i cant remember....all of these dont compete against each other.....they compete with each other...

and last time i checked...the largest event...held every year.... is sbn...and everyone goes to it...oh yes...an iasca show....that invites all other sanctions...right...largest show every year....and it isnt cause its one sanction....its all of them....

spl builders wife

boy after living with a promoter....you tend to become passionate about this ....lol...having more passionate people like...brain sanders...and icebird...and robert...is what there needs to be more of...not enough promoters...not enough passionate people....alot of talkers.....not enough do'ers...

icebird88

All good points and here are some more updates! Keep throwing out the questions or ideas and I will keep trying to give u an answer!

-1x single point IASCA events can be run with any meter!!!! U dont have to have a Audio Control. You need this meter for 2x or higher.

- If a retailer bought a IASCA membership they could in fact run a show for less then 200.00 CDN. Thats judges,fees, scoresheets etc....but it does not include judges.
Bottom line is you have to charge competitors the appropriate fees to enter the show according to what your expenses are.

- We have to start somewhere and training is where it is at. Then we work on getting more shows and creating that excitement for the competitors again. We also need to get those experienced people who dont want to judge at the moment back into the game. I would love to get all those guys certified and create a good solid bank of IASCA judges.

- as for shows one thing I do out EAST is run multiple org events. I work with Yuli and DB DRAG alot as it just makes sense for the competitors to be able to do as many things at one event. They can drive to one show instead of two or three seperate events to gain valuable points towards all the different finals. My competitors out my way just love it when we can do these types of shows as they are more fun, you get to meet all kinds of different people and it keeps there cost down.

- FINALS...The show that never makes everyone happy! People no matter where or when IASCA holds there Finals its never going to be perfect for all. Its one reason last year I started the first annual ONTARIO FINALS and it went over very well even though mother nature had other plans(bad rain storm). It would be cool if we could eventually run a WESTERN AND EASTERN CANADIAN FINALS and if all goes well in the near future maybe that can become a reality!

-lastly like I have mentioned before and have read here on this post, this is a group effort as it takes more then a couple of guys to pull something like this off. It takes the combined efforts of retailers, promoters, industry, all the orgs, judges and competitors alike.

- ANd yes SBN does work well because of Spring Break but thats just good business and thats why I have always said Manufacturers should take notice of the attendance and focus some of there attention to that show. It also should be an eye opener to any promoter about how to combine a Sanctioned event with another existing show(custom car show, Dark nights, tuner shows, local trade shows, race club shows, cruise nights, or even certain holidays or unique locations where there are lots of people).

Sorry for the long reply

zzzzzzz

iTrader: (5)

i needed to cut it ...ok

#1 Thats judges,fees, scoresheets etc....but it does not include judges ???????? thats who then you say but what

#2 IASCA judges are in what class in sq ?

#3 i would love to see this but i do not see it in my lifetime . you have FINALS in AB or BC you will see life back here and thjat is when i see retailers getting into it and doing shows (big good shows) and the industry looking at canada i.e focal ,audison, alpine , so on

if we had the FINAL out here i would get the points to go but when i see the cars that get the points to go and they get the paperswork to go as the show is about to open in the next week .who can go form vancouver bc to the FINALS in 1 week ? someone told us what was it 5 cars form bc to the FINALS last year .i would like to see the 5cars that went

Brian Sanders

agreed, the amount of diehards is dwindling in BC big time. Alberta guys are still running strong though. The more shows that are put on, and the more quality larger shows that are put on which are promoted and advertised well...the more chance there is of newcomers coming in and catching the SPL/SQ bug. It only takes one good show to make it happen.

When I started I had been into car audio for years but never actually competed. My first show was a 1x iasca event with quite a small turnout, but it was run smoothly with a great friendly group of people so I became quite interested. When my third show rolled around it was the 2x show in Kelowna in 2005 and seeing all the heavy hitters from AB...putting faces to the names ive seen on forums for many years...and seeing the multitude of kickass SQ/demo/show cars got me hooked. Less than 12 hours after that competition ended I was back home 4 hours away and had my vehicle ripped apart to rebuild my setup.

It only takes one show for a person to get the SPL bug so we have to ensure all shows are run smoothly with a lot of competitor and crowd appeal. And lots of information from competitor to competitor. Nothin is as lame as the street class SPL guys who keep their vehicles closed and setups not visible to anyone in fear of their ideas being stolen. Every competitor themselves becomes a mini-promotor IMO and we should all do our parts. Even if you have a horrid SPL system which to a lot of people is considered a fire hazard...show it off...pass on some ideas and show all your hard work.

SQmonster

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I like the idea, but it's the cost that kills me.

Aerostar467

Hey!!! Am i not a passionate person who comes to each AND every show to try and out do my score? I'm always the first one who comes to the shows with bells on.