are you sure that would be the case?

 

just send him some and get it over with

 

ok, then keep arguing and fighting over this. are you trying to set up a test where sundown is the better amp out of the ones being tested??? that seems abit biased dont u think.

the fact is that a pair of sundown amps strapped at 0.5 ohm gets beat by a single DD Z1 ran at 0.25 ohm. that is a fact. in a street car with one 12v battery. Z1 produced higher spl.

now you can call my comment biased (b/c your amp did not win) it's up to you. the more you guys cry about it the funnier it gets. like really, its just sundown, who cares. you guys are arguing over a 1500 watt amp.

 

Come on Yuli its not about who wins its about people discrediting the amount of power they put out and say they only do there power at 18V. Thats whats BS. No one ever said a SAZ1500 would beat a XA3000D or that a strapped pair would beat a Z1

 

No offense... but I have a hard time believing most people on this board are unbiased based on the amount of crap people talk about products they haven't used.

I'm not surprised AT ALL that the Z1 did better with one battery, not one bit. It's a purpose built SPL amplifier, thats what it does! It has six transformers in parallel for burp efficiency... of course it burps better! It darn well should.

I've said it a million times that I don't make SPL burp amps for Street dB Drag classes. These are designed for real usage... and in real usage people don't strap the amps at 1/2 ohm and burp them with one battery.

The fact that you still call it "spanking" even though you absolutely know that the Z1 was *made* for street burping makes me see you as bias, yes. You are a street dB Drag guy, you are biased towards equipment that works in your car.

 

yah u dont make spl amps.......so what kind of a test are you looking for?? an sq test?

next thing u gonna say is that im biased b/c im canadian.

i call it spanking b/c i tested a pair of 1500 watt amps (supposedly) vs. one 3000 watt amp. i call it a fair test. i took both amps to the lowest impedance they can go. i gave it a good charge, etc. yet, my test is still biased. dude, keep your sundowns, they are waaaaaaay too unbiased for me.

 

Yuli look, man you know your very well and your a good . But you are a strong DD guy and I know you have or had some Z1 and so on. But this was not even a proper test. You know that dude. And everyone knows that you do not compete with gains at zero. Different amps perform different with gains at zero. The whole idea is to use the gain to match the amp to the HU in order to get the maximum performance from the equipment. The Z1 was made for SPL hands down. Even you have said as a daily it sucks *****. Both amps are made for different purposes.

 

I don't see why it's so hard to understand... Street dB Drag competitors want one thing. They want to burp on one battery. You are looking for an amp that does the best in your car on one battery, DD makes that amp. In your car the DD amp will do better every time, sure, there is no doubt. This doesn't mean the DD amp spanks the pair of 1500Ds objectively... in Street-A, sure, but try to qualify your statement.

That does NOT mean that if you had a realistic electrical setup that it would do the same. Do you see my point?

Now... if you want to test the 1500Ds with a decent electrical system then, sure, I'd be glad to see you test it. But if you want to compare them with one battery in a setup that matters to nobody but dB Drag competitors that is a biased test. You are putting the amps in a setup they weren't made for and then claiming they don't do rated power, when it is, in fact, your setup that is causing them to not do well.

 

DD Z1 at .5ohms put out 1.3dB more then the Sundowns at 2ohms. Same subs and same car. Optima yellow top.

 

if they dont make spl amps why are you trying to say they suck at spl? if they are not ment for it why would they be excellent at it?

its like compairing a spl geared subwoofer to some thing like sony you can pick up from walmart.