AJL

Yeah I'm on a little bit of a smaller budget but I'll go over budget in order to do it correctly.

But thanks for the suggestion I'll check some of their lineup out.

P.S. If anyone is wondering I'm putting these in a 2 seater 2003 Dodge Dakota, building a custom center console for them to go into, maybe I'll toss up some pictures when its all said and done.

Mr.DatSubishi

As important as power is box design. Make sure you have correct air space in your box and its tuned right. Even great equipment will sound like poo in the wrong box. Good luck. Def post pics.

Garvok

and while your at it.....to eliminate confusion.....wire to 1ohm load and look for an amp stable to 1 ohm, at 1000 watts rms.......i always find more power is better

Dilatory

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The reason your cheap *** amp blew up is because it was a cheap *** amp being played outside of it's capabilities.

Yuli is a lot of things but wrong is usually not one of them.

Get a 1 ohm stable amp that runs about 800 RMS wire your positives to your positives and your negatives to your negatives in a nice big daisy chain and you're down the road banging away.

Don't make things more complicated than they need to be.

2xD4 = 1 Ohm Final or 4 Ohm Final those are your only two options. 4 is too high for monoblocks, you won't get any juice out of it, unless you get an amp that does like 1500 at 1 then you'd probably get about the 800 you need at 4.

Njord

I agree. Which is why I suggest the Hifonics Brutus line. Tones of power at a great price.

AJL

As stupid as this may sound my box building experience far outweigh's my amplifier experience and yeah I know all about air space, ect... I've spent over a month designing the box, even fine tunned it up with WinISD to get an idea of the frequency responses, cone exertion, ect...

Only real issue I'm facing with box design at the moment (before its 100% designed) is the fact that I'm building it out of 1/2" MDF (Fiberglass on outside for re-enforcement and so I can make it look pretty later lol) but my goal is to flush mount both subs or inset them 1/4", but the lips of the sub are 3/4" so I need to figure something else out for that aspect, but other then that its ready to be built. I'm fiberglassing the front part of the original center console so I can have my cup holders and so it looks a little more like the box is stock for the truck then going to fiberglass into the box to put it all together into one nice piece, one sub will point to the passenger side and the other to the drivers side (Offset one towards the back, one closer to he front).

LoL actually your 100% correct, I know exactly why my amplifier blew up, it was because I bridged it down to 1 ohm and used it on woofers that required a lot more power then it could handle, not to mention it was no where near stable at 1 ohm but that was my experimenting and messing around, I have no intentions of messing around with my new woofers.

Which is why I've asked so many questions here, even ones I thought were stupid, with new subs on the way I'm doing everything correctly this time around, which means research, research, research, and asking lots of question I'm not 100% sure about myself.

I'll post up some pictures of the box, ect... in a few weeks when its all done up, should be a pretty sweet project once its all said and done.

jonesbrooklyn

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If your box building skills are as good as you say, why would you build the box out of 1/2 as opposed to 3/4 mdf? WinISD??? Now there's a real joke. Don't take what that program tells you literally.

Sinemeup

Look for a used JBL 1200.1
750+ at 4 ohms
1200 at 2 ohms
stable at 1 ohm

AJL

Mainly because of space restrictions, with 1/2" I'm at 1.598 cubit feet, minus the displacement of the woofers I'll be sitting at 0.741 Cubic feet for each woofer, woofer recommended volumes are between 0.65 and 1.25 cubic feet each.

Its a little restricted as it is now and by using 3/4" it'll be even more restricted. The main reason why you use 3/4" is so your box doesn't break apart on you under the pressure and also because you don't want to loose any bass. Actually MDF isn't even the perfect material for building subwoofer boxes but it is a damn good cheap alternative.

Additionally I know what lots of people will say that the 2 10" will probably break the 1/2" MDF box apart and If it is built poorly then yeah I can easily see that happening, but it has a nice angle to it, plus going to be re-enforced on the outside with Fiberglass. I may also put in some re-enforcement on the inside depending on how flexible the walls seem during the building process.

No I don't take the numbers of WinISD 100% seriously but I do use it as a generalized guideline in the design process, I tweak not 100% based on the program once its all built.

Basically nothing is set in stone, something always changes, if I think it's going to be too weak when I start building, I'll re-run a few numbers and re-enforce the box so it won't break apart when I'm pounding the woofers.

As for that statement I don't want you to get confused, I'm not saying I'm a professional box builder, I've never once over the years told anyone I'm a professional anything when it comes to car audio but I am much better at building and understanding box requirements then I am at understanding how amplifiers work.

I bet though once I start getting some pictures up and start showing you my design and once things start coming together you'll get a better idea of what I'm aiming for, I'm in limbo right now, still need to wait for the weather to warm up so I can finish fiberglassing the front part of my original center console, once that's done, then I can begin building the rest of the box that is going to mold into the front piece.

Additionally I could just build the entire thing out of Fiberglass but to be honest I've heard lots of bad things about the way Fiberglass boxes sound and I've heard lots of great things about how they sound, but I would just rather stick with what I know sounds good based upon past experiences.

And my outlook on it has always been this. If I build a box I think will do great and it turns out to sound like , I'll just take it out and build a different one, but at least I tried the idea out and gave it some time to test how it sounds in an everyday work environment.

Father Yuli

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you made me blush like a school girl