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Old 12-31-2008, 09:27 AM
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2 enclosures in 1?

So my door panels in my 64 Coupe Deville are about 1/2 way done (I had to fab some from scratch using the old trim and hardware) and I am already thinking about the subs.

I am converting from 2 bench seats to 4 low back buckets so I can build 1 LARGE center console that starts just below the dash and ends between the back seats. I intend on putting 4 10" subs in the console that fire at the floor and the top of the console will be acrylic so you can see the magnets. I am going to try to make it look like a stripper stage complete with brass pole.

Anyway, I thought about a pair of subs in 2 separate compartments. My thinking is to make the compartments different sizes so each pair has different characteristics. 1 pair will be playing very low (30 hz?) with maybe an epicenter or something. The other pair will be a little tighter and punchy. I would use 2 separate amps each having a bass **** up front so I can adjust as necessary. It would seem I could have the best of both worlds.

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Old 12-31-2008, 09:46 AM
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So my door panels in my 64 Coupe Deville are about 1/2 way done (I had to fab some from scratch using the old trim and hardware) and I am already thinking about the subs.
Great car!

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I am converting from 2 bench seats to 4 low back buckets so I can build 1 LARGE center console that starts just below the dash and ends between the back seats. I intend on putting 4 10" subs in the console that fire at the floor and the top of the console will be acrylic so you can see the magnets. I am going to try to make it look like a stripper stage complete with brass pole.
Great idea. Rattles will be your biggest challenge I think. Should be thick/heavy walled and firmly mounted to the tunnel.

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Anyway, I thought about a pair of subs in 2 separate compartments. My thinking is to make the compartments different sizes so each pair has different characteristics. 1 pair will be playing very low (30 hz?) with maybe an epicenter or something. The other pair will be a little tighter and punchy. I would use 2 separate amps each having a bass **** up front so I can adjust as necessary. It would seem I could have the best of both worlds.

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I would think this might be difficult to tune. You may get phase issues resulting from identical drivers on different filters. If I were you I'd try it knowing that I could just wire it as one sub later.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:07 AM
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cancellation and phasing will be your biggest enemy in this case.

deffinatly need pics of the whip
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:45 PM
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As indicated already, this is generally a bad idea. You have massive kickpanel space - drop an 8" into each one of you want great midbass.
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:22 PM
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As usual Dukk, you have great insight.

I ended up scrapping the kick panel idea. That damn e-brake pedal/lever is going to be a huge pain to modify/relocate and make it look "right" The 1963 Kenwood Cadillac did a descent job, but might be more hassle than its worth.

I have a set of eclipse aluminum cone 3-ways laying around, I'll drop them in the doors and see how much overkill I can do with the center channel. It looks like a close size of a 6x9. With minimal hacking, I think I can sneak (2) 6.5 coax in there.

The doors are looking pretty cool. I'll post some pics soon.

As far as the good feedback I have gotten from you guyz, I will make the (4) 10's equal cuft. I seem to remember long ago Phoenix gold had a "bass cube" or something like that where you could change the "Q" right from the dash. I'll probably go that direction.
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Originally Posted by BIGEVIL
I am going to try to make it look like a stripper stage complete with brass pole.
Hmm...no way I'm in your league when it comes to ideas, but what about making the console the "runway" part of the stage, and building it to look like a "T" with more of a stage portion in the rear? The rear could be attached to the console runway part, but maybe be 3x3 square to resemble the "stage" portion. Stick the brass pole in the center of the "stage" instead of on the console?

Anyway, whatever you do will be top notch. You have great workmanship skills, and better yet, a fantastic imagination.

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Old 01-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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As usual Dukk, you have great insight.

I ended up scrapping the kick panel idea. That damn e-brake pedal/lever is going to be a huge pain to modify/relocate and make it look "right" The 1963 Kenwood Cadillac did a descent job, but might be more hassle than its worth.

I have a set of eclipse aluminum cone 3-ways laying around, I'll drop them in the doors and see how much overkill I can do with the center channel. It looks like a close size of a 6x9. With minimal hacking, I think I can sneak (2) 6.5 coax in there.

The doors are looking pretty cool. I'll post some pics soon.

As far as the good feedback I have gotten from you guyz, I will make the (4) 10's equal cuft. I seem to remember long ago Phoenix gold had a "bass cube" or something like that where you could change the "Q" right from the dash. I'll probably go that direction.

I'm not sure just how much different your 64 is from my 66 inside but the dash opening in the 66 holds a single 4" or so driver or it can be opened up from below for something like a pair of 4s or a 4x10. Pretty common back in the mono days.

For the KPs, remember that you don't really have to aim a midbass - I was able to mount a 10 flat in each one in the 66. Full use of the ebrake is maintained. For highs I'm using a set of USD A7.0 waveguides - they just fit
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:14 AM
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great you mounted the waveguides!!!!
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^lol, I wish. I test fitted them though
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:14 PM
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^lol, I wish. I test fitted them though
Damn,
I was about to bug you to post pictures....
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