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Old 09-19-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jalat
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we made the bass on the headunit to -5, mid @ -1 and treble to +1.
^^^ I'll guarantee this is the reason why you have no bass....
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:06 PM
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^^^ I'll guarantee this is the reason why you have no bass....
Ok, I will try tuning the system with the bass at flat? and no we dont have access to an oscilloscope, i hear they are quite expensive.
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Originally Posted by danrc28
This may sound weird, or it may just be in my head, but after JALAT and I installed the system It almost felt like the output from the stock system decreased. Where I usually would never be able to crank up the volume any louder than 35 wihtout causing discomfort for my ears, I now find that I MUST crank it to at least 35 to get some decent output from the sub, I find that many times I am maxing out the volume at 45!!! I know it sounds weird but is this even possible? If this were not the case, 35 wouldve also been my max.
35 was max the bitone would take a with a 0db sine wave.

As for dimming I have no clue - it was the same in the SS I helped setup
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by danrc28
Ok, I will try tuning the system with the bass at flat? and no we dont have access to an oscilloscope, i hear they are quite expensive.
I have one for the next few days if need be.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:07 PM
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I can almost guarantee that you are feeding a crossed over signal into the amp thus causing this dilema
what you need to do is grab a cheap RCA and cut it... don't cut the factory harness but rather strip it and splice the RCA directly onto it.
get an Audio control unit suitable for the job. they have the option of grounded or floating input/output( or atleast they used to) get a professional installer to complete the job!(i'm not putting down Jalat's ability... just a lack of knowledge in this situation)
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by avidedtr
^^^ I'll guarantee this is the reason why you have no bass....

stock speakers sound distorted when you put the volume up, due to the amount of bass coming from them when you tune the bass flat ( 0 ), so thats why we have it down.

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I can almost guarantee that you are feeding a crossed over signal into the amp thus causing this dilema
what you need to do is grab a cheap RCA and cut it... don't cut the factory harness but rather strip it and splice the RCA directly onto it.
get an Audio control unit suitable for the job. they have the option of grounded or floating input/output( or atleast they used to) get a professional installer to complete the job!(i'm not putting down Jalat's ability... just a lack of knowledge in this situation)
listen, i'm no pro, i'll admit that. but at the same time, i can guarantee that its installed properly. maybe using the RE-Q isn't the best option, even though i thought i was...

what bothers me most is when you pay big bucks for an amp like the ZED Kronos, and the thing doesn't take balanced signal, yet I can go to best buy and buy an Alpine that does...
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jalat
stock speakers sound distorted when you put the volume up, due to the amount of bass coming from them when you tune the bass flat ( 0 ), so thats why we have it down.

listen, i'm no pro, i'll admit that. but at the same time, i can guarantee that its installed properly. maybe using the RE-Q isn't the best option, even though i thought i was...

what bothers me most is when you pay big bucks for an amp like the ZED Kronos, and the thing doesn't take balanced signal, yet I can go to best buy and buy an Alpine that does...
Are you using the factory system for front stage audio and just added the sub and amp?
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:33 PM
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Are you using the factory system for front stage audio and just added the sub and amp?
yes. everything else has been left the way it was, he just wanted some extra low end.
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time to buy the Zed 6ch and bypass that POS amp.
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Originally Posted by jalat
stock speakers sound distorted when you put the volume up, due to the amount of bass coming from them when you tune the bass flat ( 0 ), so thats why we have it down.
When you adjusted the bass to -5 did you factor in that the 'Q' on that deck radio is probably 0.50 so it adjusted all frequencies from 10hz to 100+hz.
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