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Old 12-31-2008, 10:11 PM
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HELP !! Setting Complete Car Audio System

Hello Everyone, I am new here. hopefully someone can help me here. This is what I have so far

2003 Honda Civic

Installed:
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Pioneer DEH-P6000UB MP3 Deck
Infinity Kappa 6012i - 2 Front Speakers
Factory Rear Speakers
2 Subs - Infinity Kappa 10" Car Subwoofer (102.7W)
1 Amp for Sub - MTX 1-Channel Car Amplifier (X500D)


Purchased but will install soon:
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4 Channel Amp - MTX Thunder TC4004
Stinger 8ga 600W Complete Amplifier wiring kit


First Question:
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For my 4 channel, should I use 8ga or 4ga wiring kit?


2nd Question:
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1. Infinity Kappa 6 1/2" 2-Way Speaker (62.9I)
2. Infinity Reference 6 1/2" 2-Way Component Speakers (6020CS)

Which speakers are better in comparison? Which would be a better fit for my audio system? Anyone who can answer this please.


3rd Question:
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1. Dynamat Trunk Kit (19405)
2. Dynamat License Plate Sound Deadening Kit (19100)

Should I get both of the above or just the trunk kit? I am thinking to buy both. Would I need dynamat door kit as well if I get these 2 ?


4th Question:
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I also have 2 spare dynamats for speakers already. They are about 4 years old but I never used them. Can I still use these dynamats? If I can, Should I use these for my front speakers or rear speakers?


5th Question:
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Should I get speaker baffles as well ? If so, which ones are good to buy?


Conclusion:
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I expect a LOUD, CLEAR GOOD QUALITY sound out of my system. I would rather pay extra to get something that's worth keeping. Please advise me in details. I hope there are some experts here who can tell me specifically what I need to have a COMPLETE GOOD QUALITY AUDIO SYSTEM. Please recommend any models or brands or any other accessories that may help my car audio system. I would really appreciate it.


THANK YOU SO MUCH
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:16 AM
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8ga should be enough but if you can go with 4
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Ill go with the 6020CS bc of the real crossover, component, higher power handling
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Put as much sound deadening as you can, instead of Dynamat (very good but expensive) take a look at this B-Quiet Extreme
4th
yes, but you need more that this kit to get good results, do the entire door and rear deck (even multiple layer)
5th
try it, it think they sell those for around 15$

Conclusion
Install the 6020CS in the front doors and use your 6012i in the back(with baffles). The 6020CS are 2 ohms and the 6012i are 4 ohms, this way you'll have 2x100 in front and 2x50 in the back. Also, I would use a HP filter at around 63Hz for the front and 80+Hz for the rear. One more thing, the sub are currently underpowered, i would look into a bigger amp if you want more punch.
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:58 AM
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What is your main power wire gauge feeding both amps? He is right you are under powering the subs. They are rated at 700 watts RMS (350 each) but I am running the same subs on an Exile S1000.1 which does the same RMS as your amp and these things pound! If you set up the way he said you will be putting out 800 watts RMS and will want 4 gauge as a main power wire and you can split into 8 gauge to feed both amps from a block.
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Why Infinity for the speakers? There are other (and quite possibly better speakers) at the same price point. But if you can get a good deal on them, then go for it.

In general, component speakers sound much better than co-axial speakers. The external cross-overs keep frequency more accurately routed so the speakers don't play outside of their range.
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use 1/0 for main and 2 4gauge to feed both amps from a distro block. thats what i would do and its the better way to go
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lpchouinard View Post
1st
8ga should be enough but if you can go with 4
2nd
Ill go with the 6020CS bc of the real crossover, component, higher power handling
3rd
Put as much sound deadening as you can, instead of Dynamat (very good but expensive) take a look at this B-Quiet Extreme
4th
yes, but you need more that this kit to get good results, do the entire door and rear deck (even multiple layer)
5th
try it, it think they sell those for around 15$

Conclusion
Install the 6020CS in the front doors and use your 6012i in the back(with baffles). The 6020CS are 2 ohms and the 6012i are 4 ohms, this way you'll have 2x100 in front and 2x50 in the back. Also, I would use a HP filter at around 63Hz for the front and 80+Hz for the rear. One more thing, the sub are currently underpowered, i would look into a bigger amp if you want more punch.
Thank you so much for taking time to write this. I will go with your suggestions and see how it sounds. I will replace my current amp with 1000W amp? Any suggestions? What is a good brand for car amps? Rockford or MTX? Should I get a mono amp for subs? Please let me know. Anyone with suggestions about good amps?
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whosit View Post
What is your main power wire gauge feeding both amps? He is right you are under powering the subs. They are rated at 700 watts RMS (350 each) but I am running the same subs on an Exile S1000.1 which does the same RMS as your amp and these things pound! If you set up the way he said you will be putting out 800 watts RMS and will want 4 gauge as a main power wire and you can split into 8 gauge to feed both amps from a block.
Main power wire is 8 guage.
I see what you're saying. It makes sense. I should've asked you guys before I even started the installation process. Now I already have 8 guage wire for main power. I need a bigger amp because I am under powering subs. I need to replace 8 guage with 4 guage wire. More work for me to do. Thanks for the advise. This is a good site, I am getting some good advise here.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:55 PM
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Definitely upgrade to at least 4 gauge for the main power. Do you "need" a bigger amp? No... is the room there to go bigger? Yes. Like I said I have 500 watts going to the same subs in a sealed box and they pound like crazy! Try it with your current amp first before spending the money on a bigger one.
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Originally Posted by maltesechicken View Post
Why Infinity for the speakers? There are other (and quite possibly better speakers) at the same price point. But if you can get a good deal on them, then go for it.

In general, component speakers sound much better than co-axial speakers. The external cross-overs keep frequency more accurately routed so the speakers don't play outside of their range.

I heard good things about Infinity. They sound pretty good for the price. I guess I was looking for budget speakers with good sound quality. Thanks for your suggestion.
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Definitely upgrade to at least 4 gauge for the main power. Do you "need" a bigger amp? No... is the room there to go bigger? Yes. Like I said I have 500 watts going to the same subs in a sealed box and they pound like crazy! Try it with your current amp first before spending the money on a bigger one.

Alright I will upgrade to 4 guage for main power for now. I will see how it sounds with the current amp. If I am happy with it then I wouldn't bother spending money on a bigger one for now. I might think about it later when I save some money.
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