JVC KD-AVX33 bypass video parking
07-04-2007, 11:44 AM
#21
is it legal to do? NO
do peple do it? YES
who is it up to? THE INDIVIDUAL
is my Alpine hooked up to foot/hand brake? NO
do i use the screen while driving? No, not really, it was simply much easier to attach the bypass module than to run all the wires to the foot and hand brake to complete the sequence.
do peple do it? YES
who is it up to? THE INDIVIDUAL
is my Alpine hooked up to foot/hand brake? NO
do i use the screen while driving? No, not really, it was simply much easier to attach the bypass module than to run all the wires to the foot and hand brake to complete the sequence.
07-11-2007, 12:16 AM
#23
Originally Posted by MR2NR
This legality is called Duty of Care. It is the same thing when I am at work as the head of the floor in the Pub that I am employed at. While the Pub is in business to serve alcohol, there is also the care and concern of the patron. My job is to ensure that a patron is not overserved as it is illegal in all provinces to be drunk in a public place. This also carries on after the patron has left the establishment. Should I see a patron whom I believe has had to much too drink attempting to drive a vehicle or leave driving a vehicle, this opens the Pub to a lawsuit should there be a accident. I will and have hauled many people out of the Pub (sometimes by their throat or twisted up into a pretzel), hauled people out of their vehicle and will send them to jail on the spot. I have no issues with this at all.
So once again, the real issue here is Duty Of Care. I am sure that the owner of this great site does not want to get his butt sued off over someone on this site not being able to use their common sense, so STOP POSTING HOW TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
So once again, the real issue here is Duty Of Care. I am sure that the owner of this great site does not want to get his butt sued off over someone on this site not being able to use their common sense, so STOP POSTING HOW TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
I suppose that is why the instructions on how to set it up to bypass the Alpine unit COME WITH the PAC TR-7.
07-11-2007, 01:03 AM
#24
Good to hear my example makes you laugh. Kind of what I expect from people who do not know any better.
FYI, here is the ramifications in British Columbia in case you thought I was full of it.
In wake of a recent BC Supreme Court decision determining that the Steveston Hotel in Richmond was 50% liable for a drunk driving accident, go2 in conjunction with the Alliance of Beverage Licensees (ABLE BC), BARWATCH, and the BC Restaurant and Foodservices Association (BCRFA), organized an information session on June 2nd explaining how pubs and bars can reduce the risk of a lawsuit.
Here is what this now means.
Lorne Folick, a lawyer who specializes in defending bars and restaurants in British Columbia, began the session by talking about BC’s Liquor Control and Licensing Act. The act itself states that it is an offense to serve intoxicated individuals, permit individuals to become intoxicated and permit intoxicated individuals to remain on the premises. "This legislation is old," said Lorne. "It basically says that you need to get rid of intoxicated people. But because of liability issues, you also need to do something further."
What got the ball rolling, according to Lorne, was the 1973 Supreme Court of Canada's decision in the Jordon House v. Menow and Honesberger case. "The Supreme Court concentrated on what you do with someone who's intoxicated," said Lorne. The decision imposed a "duty of care" on commercial providers of alcohol to protect intoxicated patrons. "Your responsibility extends not just to the intoxicated person, but to their potentially endangering others."
It is a lawyers world now people. Duty of Care does not just apply in the circumstance that I mentioned above but also extends to that of drivers on the road. I have a right to drive safely on the road, if you choose not to drive safely by bypassing a video system safety device, I will definitely sue your butt off, the site owners butt off and the person who posted the info and you know what, I will guarantee that I will win. You choose to do something illegal, fine that is on your shoulders. The site owner though should realize that Duty of Care extends to him here and he is setting himself up for a major lawsuit the first time that one person has a accident and has learned how to do it on this site.
So Drew, you laugh away as much as you like. I can't say that I hope one day that some idiot stick watching his dvd nails your car, maybe then it will hit home for you. This is Illegal and posting how to do so is basically aiding the issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_of_care You might want to read this as well.
FYI, here is the ramifications in British Columbia in case you thought I was full of it.
In wake of a recent BC Supreme Court decision determining that the Steveston Hotel in Richmond was 50% liable for a drunk driving accident, go2 in conjunction with the Alliance of Beverage Licensees (ABLE BC), BARWATCH, and the BC Restaurant and Foodservices Association (BCRFA), organized an information session on June 2nd explaining how pubs and bars can reduce the risk of a lawsuit.
Here is what this now means.
Lorne Folick, a lawyer who specializes in defending bars and restaurants in British Columbia, began the session by talking about BC’s Liquor Control and Licensing Act. The act itself states that it is an offense to serve intoxicated individuals, permit individuals to become intoxicated and permit intoxicated individuals to remain on the premises. "This legislation is old," said Lorne. "It basically says that you need to get rid of intoxicated people. But because of liability issues, you also need to do something further."
What got the ball rolling, according to Lorne, was the 1973 Supreme Court of Canada's decision in the Jordon House v. Menow and Honesberger case. "The Supreme Court concentrated on what you do with someone who's intoxicated," said Lorne. The decision imposed a "duty of care" on commercial providers of alcohol to protect intoxicated patrons. "Your responsibility extends not just to the intoxicated person, but to their potentially endangering others."
It is a lawyers world now people. Duty of Care does not just apply in the circumstance that I mentioned above but also extends to that of drivers on the road. I have a right to drive safely on the road, if you choose not to drive safely by bypassing a video system safety device, I will definitely sue your butt off, the site owners butt off and the person who posted the info and you know what, I will guarantee that I will win. You choose to do something illegal, fine that is on your shoulders. The site owner though should realize that Duty of Care extends to him here and he is setting himself up for a major lawsuit the first time that one person has a accident and has learned how to do it on this site.
So Drew, you laugh away as much as you like. I can't say that I hope one day that some idiot stick watching his dvd nails your car, maybe then it will hit home for you. This is Illegal and posting how to do so is basically aiding the issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_of_care You might want to read this as well.
Last edited by MR2NR; 07-11-2007 at 01:07 AM.
07-13-2007, 11:14 AM
#25
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sorry for butting in... but say they're anting this bypass so their passenger can watch the movies while driving.. ie a trip. I'd hate to click in my foot e-brake for such a long trip just so my passenger remains entertained.
Unfortunately it's impossible to ensure that the DVD player remains unseen and unused while driving unless it's stuck behind their head and out of viewing distance, but for those of us who do not have younglings and there is usually more then one person in the car, the DVD is a nice addition for passengers.
It should be up to the discrepancy of the driver to decide on how they want their deck to be installed or if they want to bypass wires, and since, as I mentioned above, it's impossible to regulate it to non-e-brake on for highway driving only, it all comes down to the choice of the driver, but as everyone has already said, if the driver becomes distracted they should have to live with the consequences.
Man up and do the right thing.
Unfortunately it's impossible to ensure that the DVD player remains unseen and unused while driving unless it's stuck behind their head and out of viewing distance, but for those of us who do not have younglings and there is usually more then one person in the car, the DVD is a nice addition for passengers.
It should be up to the discrepancy of the driver to decide on how they want their deck to be installed or if they want to bypass wires, and since, as I mentioned above, it's impossible to regulate it to non-e-brake on for highway driving only, it all comes down to the choice of the driver, but as everyone has already said, if the driver becomes distracted they should have to live with the consequences.
Man up and do the right thing.
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