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Loud music linked to collapsed lungs.

Old 09-03-2004, 05:15 PM
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Got this in my email from the Alpha-1 foundation of Canada (genetic disease, runs in my family)

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Blasting music can be hard on the ears and the neighbors, and now researchers say it can also pack enough punch to collapse a lung.
Reporting in the medical journal Thorax, they describe the cases of four young men who suffered a lung collapse -- technically called pneumothorax --that appeared to be triggered by loud music. Three of the men were at a concert or club when the pneumothorax occurred, while the fourth was in his car, which was outfitted with a 1,000-watt bass box because he "liked to listen to loud music."

A pneumothorax occurs when a small rupture in one of the lungs allows air to leak into the space between the lungs and the chest wall,
causing the lung to collapse. Symptoms include breathlessness and chest pain on the affected side.
A small, partial collapse may resolve on its own, but more severe cases may require the insertion of a chest tube to allow the air to escape the chest cavity.

Often, an underlying lung disease or chest injury is the culprit in pneumothorax. But so-called primary spontaneous pneumothorax happens
in the absence of an underlying disease, typically striking tall, thin, male smokers.

The cases described in the Thorax report suggest that loud music may be one cause of this type of pneumothorax. Though the report cites only a small number of patients, lead author Dr. Marc Noppen told Reuters Health he suspects more cases of music-induced pneumothorax
will now be caught.

Since the report's publication, he said, doctors in a few countries have told him they've seen similar cases. If more doctors routinely ask pneumothorax patients about their exposure to loud music, the number of injuries attributed to blasting tunes will likely go up, noted Noppen, who is with the Academic Hospital in Brussels, Belgium.

In two of the cases his team describes, the men were standing close to large loudspeakers when they suddenly felt chest pain.

A third case involved a 23-year-old smoker who had suffered several episodes of pneumothorax. During a follow-up medical visit, the doctors mentioned having seen two music-related pneumothorax cases, and the patient suddenly remembered that two of his attacks happened
at heavy metal concerts.

Noppen said he and his colleagues suspect that loud music may damage the lungs due to its booming bass frequency, which can be felt as a
vibration going through the body. The lungs may essentially start to vibrate in the same frequency as the bass, which could cause a lung to
rupture.

It's probably a good idea, according to Noppen, to stand back from the speakers at concerts and clubs and to ease up on that car-stereo bass. It might also save your hearing, he added.

SOURCE: Thorax, August 2004.

I just thought it was interesting.
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Old 09-03-2004, 05:27 PM
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I've heard something about loud music causing heartfailure of sorts.......

If you stop and thing about it,it is a very good possibilty....

You hit any part of the human body with enough force and it is going to have an effect of some sort internaly....

Just my thoughts...
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Old 09-03-2004, 05:59 PM
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So the question rises - what is safe these days?
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:52 PM
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I've also heard of people being knocked unconscious from their bass. I couldn't imagine driving on the highway, getting KO'd by a bass note and then continually being pummeled by bass while the car spins out of control.

Kinda dangerous when you think about it but I'm sure it would take a pretty big boom to knock someone out.
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Old 09-04-2004, 04:18 AM
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Only thing I've heard about was really loud low frequency where it can case your heart to change beat to the bass tone or something like that? Can't member where or who I heard that from could be fiction but sounds real enough to be fact [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
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Old 09-04-2004, 09:14 AM
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Many years ago in some car show. I had the well pleasure of sitting in an mini van with an "system" in it. I kinda thought is was strange the owner didn't sit with me ( he used his remote ).I felt my heart skip a beat or two before I called uncle!

So with that said I do beleave the story. I know the Mini is more than capable to hit say 18 hz. Low enough for me! As for my lungs why not the lower hz is feel only and my body does feel an well I like it so....I will enjoy my body and the Mini's system for what it is. And like any thing else to much or to little of any thing can be harmful to our fragile bodies. Now if only I can convince my wife we are... well you know not enough
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Old 10-10-2004, 11:34 AM
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My friend just got a seizure last night and the Doctor said it was a collapsed lung.
And this kid has 2 12 bass speakers in his truck its very loud and I think its because of them
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Old 10-11-2004, 08:31 AM
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Tell you what if they want to do any more research i'll be there test subject see what these DOCTORS consider loud music (-: I bet I've sat in louder or even built it.


If anything when i'm older my car will bemy portable pacemaker......LOL
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Anything done to an extreme will probably cause some sort of damage.
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