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Old 05-19-2008, 02:58 PM
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So i could put 6.5's in the back rather than the 6x9's. From an actual SQ point of view, listening to 6x9's is not nearly as enjoyable than the round components. The rear speakers are a big part of the sound for the car though, so i dont think i'd do away with them.

As for amplifiers, could somebody point me in the right direction? I know that just running 4 components wont give much bass, but the plan would be put a HPF on it and wait till more money shows up for a sub/sub amp.



I never really looked into Infinity, but after having done so they sound quite appealing. Come to think of it one of my buddies actually has an infinity system and I believe it sounded very nice. Any suggestions for an amp that might do well with kappas?

Does anybody have opinions on Massive? I've never actually heard of them until now, and there really isn't very much information about them. Listening could be nice....



How do you figure that? Was expecting to budget more than 400 for good quality low freq response? Or am I extremely uninformed..

You guys are a great help though. I actually feel like i'm making progress in the planning this =D. Thanks!
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Yes you can do the 6.5 and not the 6x9 no problem.You can make or buy plates.In all my SQ systems I never do rear fill.You would not hear it anyways as my sound stage just rocks(lots of time with a RTA helps) but if you want them go for it but with the proper front stage it will not be needed(how many times you go to a show and the singer is behind you?).

As for an amp I can look and give you a few in a wee bit.

Massive make some good stuff.Some of the stuff they make is good sounding and loud as hell. www.massiveaudio.com info can be had on the site

If your budget allows more for your bottom end I would not stop you I spend ungodly amounts.I good sub system can make or brake a good system(so will other things as well)
How ever $400-$600 can get you one nice sub.Put an amp to it(maybe another $400-600) and you would have a killer system going that would make your eyelids vibrate on your eyeballs like a trunk lid on a trunk!
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:05 PM
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6x9's are not a bad idea if you won't be running a sub as they offer pretty god low's while components usually don't as much.

Of course as someone else mentioned, I would put more $$ on the front comps and forget about the rears unless I was running some sort of surround setup.
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Hmm. I was actually originally just going to put in rears and do fronts later, but maybe the other way around would be a better idea. I suppose if i did that i could also go for a 4 channel amp and just bridge two for a sub, then if I do add rears later I could also dedicate a sub it's own amp. Kind of a cheap solution, but i suppose it could do....

Yeah, I've looked around on massiveaudio.com. From what I saw they looked pretty good, but i can't tell what's advertising and what's real. They look loud for sure!

NEW PAIR INFINITY KAPPA PERFECT 5.1 5.25" 400W COMP - (eBay.ca item 310051072788 end time 20-May-08 19:02:24 EDT)
for the front maybe? Or

JL AUDIO ZR525-CSI 5.25" ZR COMPONENT CAR SPEAKERS NEW - (eBay.ca item 150249079186 end time 28-May-08 22:38:04 EDT)
maybe?

Both have great reviews in terms of mid/high SQ.

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I would get Morel before I would buy infinity. Find the nearest Morel dealer in your area and give them a listen, you will be very impressed.
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I dont think anybody carries Morel around here. There are ~5 dealers in Toronto area (incl yourself?), but nobody around Ottawa. If I could I would though.
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Originally Posted by abysil
Hmm. I was actually originally just going to put in rears and do fronts later, but maybe the other way around would be a better idea. I suppose if i did that i could also go for a 4 channel amp and just bridge two for a sub, then if I do add rears later I could also dedicate a sub it's own amp. Kind of a cheap solution, but i suppose it could do....

Yeah, I've looked around on massiveaudio.com. From what I saw they looked pretty good, but i can't tell what's advertising and what's real. They look loud for sure!

NEW PAIR INFINITY KAPPA PERFECT 5.1 5.25" 400W COMP - (eBay.ca item 310051072788 end time 20-May-08 19:02:24 EDT)
for the front maybe? Or

JL AUDIO ZR525-CSI 5.25" ZR COMPONENT CAR SPEAKERS NEW - (eBay.ca item 150249079186 end time 28-May-08 22:38:04 EDT)
maybe?

Both have great reviews in terms of mid/high SQ.

-Mike
both over priced I think,The JL`s would be better but for that cost on them you can find way way better.Morel are real nice as well but come with a good sized tag as well and will take more from a budget then you think.

Here are some good amps some are reasonable priced as well but some may be sold
ZX450 here
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/car-audio-sale/67090-stuff-sale.html
they can be had for around $200-$250
SX900.4 here
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/car-audio-sale/53862-fs-kicker-sx900-4-kicker-12-a.html
KX850.4 here
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/car-audio-sale/65757-fs-kicker-kx-850-4-a.html
PA-4100 here
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/car-audio-sale/64902-old-school-earthquake-4-channel-amp.html
Vary nice amp old school he is willing to deal on his price as well
SRX 4 here
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/car-audio-sale/68651-wtt-audison-srx-4-amp-lnib.html
Also another vary nice amp that can be had at a good price

As for what speakers to go with the fronts first you may just find you don`t need or want the rears after that.
If you need any help with Massives stuf let me know what I can help I know most the stuff well.
As for just going with " I suppose if i did that i could also go for a 4 channel amp and just bridge two for a sub, then if I do add rears later I could also dedicate a sub it's own amp. Kind of a cheap solution, but i suppose it could do...." yes it can do but can also lead you back to step one when you go to change.

Pick how you want go with it and don`t second guess where you want to be.This will save you cash like you would not beleave!!

Ok there is a few ways to not do things like you said leave out the rears for now and save the cash if you want later add a amp and the rears as simple as that no other changes.

I think you would be good on a deck, 2ch amp, components on the 2ch,a sub and a mono amp to run.

If done right from the get go this could be all you ever want or need.Things like this is also what wins in SQ and do well in some SPL classes as well.
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What can you tell me about Kicker? I either haven't heard of them, or wasn't paying attention when I did. Reputable company for amps? From what I can tell they are widely used more for subs than component/satellites.

Kinda eyeing either the PA-4100, SX900.4 or ZX450.2 out of the amps listed
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Kicker is a well established top notch brand
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Originally Posted by abysil
What can you tell me about Kicker? I either haven't heard of them, or wasn't paying attention when I did. Reputable company for amps? From what I can tell they are widely used more for subs than component/satellites.

Kinda eyeing either the PA-4100, SX900.4 or ZX450.2 out of the amps listed
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Great place to buy from.most of the amps made by them are great.Subs are good to great to loud as .Not a ton of SQ in all the models and I know better for that but still great subs.

Them amps are all killer.Best bang for the buck would be a ZX450 or it is a ZX475 as well as a Ti500.4 its just versions of them.They can be found for a killer price with hunting.
The Kicker I was thinking of that my self I like the features of it when its on the remote.I am sure it sounds great not as great as the old ZX450 but almost
The PA-4100 is a solid Zed made amp loud as hell and sounds great I am sure it would be close to the ZX450`s SQ on the bench.
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Sounds like you're leaning towards the zx450.
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