Noob has a question about DSP
Noob has a question about DSP
Hi there,
Hope you experts can help me out.
I used to have a JVC car deck 5 years ago, but got stolen. I loved the deck - it had BBE and all this crazy DSP settings... it sounded like a concert hall in my little car. But that unit is no longer available for purchase. So I got a new deck and I found that the brands like Pioneer, Alpine, JVC, etc., don't have such features on their decks anymore. I asked many car audio places in Vancouver, and nobody could tell me why these brands stopped making such decks.
I really want my concert hall and other settings (such as "studio", "club", etc.) back. I know that there are purists out there who would look down upon my desire for this, but to tell you honestly I enjoyed the sound so much I spent hours driving around in my car aimlessly just to listen to my stereo. Now the sound I have is very "natural" sounding, but just has no depth, no echo, nothing. It feels like I'm sitting right in front of a bunch of speakers, and that's about it.
Can anyone please recommend a deck or equalizer or some other kind of add-on I can purchase to give me what I want?
Hope you experts can help me out.
I used to have a JVC car deck 5 years ago, but got stolen. I loved the deck - it had BBE and all this crazy DSP settings... it sounded like a concert hall in my little car. But that unit is no longer available for purchase. So I got a new deck and I found that the brands like Pioneer, Alpine, JVC, etc., don't have such features on their decks anymore. I asked many car audio places in Vancouver, and nobody could tell me why these brands stopped making such decks.
I really want my concert hall and other settings (such as "studio", "club", etc.) back. I know that there are purists out there who would look down upon my desire for this, but to tell you honestly I enjoyed the sound so much I spent hours driving around in my car aimlessly just to listen to my stereo. Now the sound I have is very "natural" sounding, but just has no depth, no echo, nothing. It feels like I'm sitting right in front of a bunch of speakers, and that's about it.
Can anyone please recommend a deck or equalizer or some other kind of add-on I can purchase to give me what I want?
Hi there,
Hope you experts can help me out.
I used to have a JVC car deck 5 years ago, but got stolen. I loved the deck - it had BBE and all this crazy DSP settings... it sounded like a concert hall in my little car. But that unit is no longer available for purchase. So I got a new deck and I found that the brands like Pioneer, Alpine, JVC, etc., don't have such features on their decks anymore. I asked many car audio places in Vancouver, and nobody could tell me why these brands stopped making such decks.
I really want my concert hall and other settings (such as "studio", "club", etc.) back. I know that there are purists out there who would look down upon my desire for this, but to tell you honestly I enjoyed the sound so much I spent hours driving around in my car aimlessly just to listen to my stereo. Now the sound I have is very "natural" sounding, but just has no depth, no echo, nothing. It feels like I'm sitting right in front of a bunch of speakers, and that's about it.
Can anyone please recommend a deck or equalizer or some other kind of add-on I can purchase to give me what I want?
Hope you experts can help me out.
I used to have a JVC car deck 5 years ago, but got stolen. I loved the deck - it had BBE and all this crazy DSP settings... it sounded like a concert hall in my little car. But that unit is no longer available for purchase. So I got a new deck and I found that the brands like Pioneer, Alpine, JVC, etc., don't have such features on their decks anymore. I asked many car audio places in Vancouver, and nobody could tell me why these brands stopped making such decks.
I really want my concert hall and other settings (such as "studio", "club", etc.) back. I know that there are purists out there who would look down upon my desire for this, but to tell you honestly I enjoyed the sound so much I spent hours driving around in my car aimlessly just to listen to my stereo. Now the sound I have is very "natural" sounding, but just has no depth, no echo, nothing. It feels like I'm sitting right in front of a bunch of speakers, and that's about it.
Can anyone please recommend a deck or equalizer or some other kind of add-on I can purchase to give me what I want?
Try the pioneer 880 or 800 series decks, thwy are stacked to the gills with options at very reasonable prices that can be had on ebay. Also any of the new Alpine decks, I belive the 9875 has the same features. All those settings on your previous deck were preset EQ settings, nothing wrong with them , if you like them then thats what you should get.
I didn't see much in the Pioneer lineup either, but that was only in-store...I didn't look on E-Bay yet.
What I had on my JVC which I liked was those souund settings to do with staging/ambience such as concert hall. It also had EQ settings for rock,jazz, etc., but I believe that it is different from staging. Unless someone can somehow assure me that I can achieve those staging settings through EQ then please let me know, cuz God knows I've tried.
I used to own a Pioneer with the DSP settings, they sounded kinda cheap to me. They are simply weird EQ presets.
You are better off getting a deck with a good parametric EQ. I own the Eclipse CD5030 and it has a 7-band parametric EQ. You can cut/boost/change frequencies on each of the 7 bands. It gives you a lot of adjustment, You will even notice a great sound change on basic factory speakers.
Forget about those DSP effects for now
You are better off getting a deck with a good parametric EQ. I own the Eclipse CD5030 and it has a 7-band parametric EQ. You can cut/boost/change frequencies on each of the 7 bands. It gives you a lot of adjustment, You will even notice a great sound change on basic factory speakers.
Forget about those DSP effects for now
AAAAAAA is right on I believe.
What he's looking for is what SoundBlaster Live! brought the the computer some years back with the EAX Reverb/Echo effects. However, I don't know of any decks that have this feature.
However, if you can get your hands on a deck that has good T/A on it, you maybe fake a portion of it by massively delaying your rear speakers and cutting out some frequencies on them to get the acting more like an echo from the back walls of a concert hall or something.
It's something I've been wanting to experiment with myself for a while but never got around to it...
What he's looking for is what SoundBlaster Live! brought the the computer some years back with the EAX Reverb/Echo effects. However, I don't know of any decks that have this feature.
However, if you can get your hands on a deck that has good T/A on it, you maybe fake a portion of it by massively delaying your rear speakers and cutting out some frequencies on them to get the acting more like an echo from the back walls of a concert hall or something.
It's something I've been wanting to experiment with myself for a while but never got around to it...
yeah it's 1st generation DSP which was popular in the 90's and early 2000's. Like everything else, the good versions were good, or at least enjoyable, the bad were just plain bad. Most of the car audio big guns, alpine, pioneer, clarion, kenwood, and sony all had some form of it or another. OP if you want that, you can get an Alpine era-g320...regularly on ebay, it has eq, multiple venue dsp..stadium, church, concert hall, etc... and it's one of the best units for that sort of thing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-ERA-G320-EQ-Equalizer-SOUND-PROCESSOR-Ai-NET_W0QQitemZ280441421107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414b9c7d33
http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-ERA-G320-EQ-Equalizer-SOUND-PROCESSOR-Ai-NET_W0QQitemZ280441421107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414b9c7d33
Last edited by Denonite; Dec 22, 2009 at 04:08 PM.


