PEI330Ci

I see a posting trend developing.

In all seriousness, I'm interested in hearing from people with exposure to Milbert tube amps.

They have been used in some competition systems that a few members of this board have heard. Can those priviledged few elaborate on their experience?

Nice amps.

Adam

[ June 06, 2004, 01:18 AM: Message edited by: PEI330Ci ]

MB

very nice amps .... if u like tubes

droy

Very nice amp...but seriously lacking in power. I owned one and found it to be very warm and transparent, but didn't mate up very well with my Dyn's (pigs). If you're thinking of using it as a tweater amp...maybe.

PEI330Ci

Thanks droy!

Dynaudio midranges are generally in the 84 db 1watt/1metre area. My Focal Utopia 4" midranges are around 86 or 87 db efficient, so this IS and issue for me. I think that an amp of this calibre would be a waste on tweeters alone.

Did you sell the amp to a member of this forum?

Adam

MitekCAKyle

I heard them in Dale F's car on some focal speakers and they seemed to work quite well. [img]smile.gif[/img]

droy

Nope...alas I had it stolen while living in Texas a few years back. I really loved the thing while parked, but lost much of the apparent benefits while at highway (and much less than highway) speeds. Then again, I didn't know about sound barriers back then and certainly didn't have anything as good as your ride. The Milbert is an exceptional piece but I would compare it to Velodyne Subs...they work great within a very narrow band of application (low output). However, within this band they are exceptional (assuming you like tubes and I do). BTW, their tube crossover is equally good.

PLOW

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this is an article that i found in other forum about milbert amp:

The Equipment: Same as before, Edgar Horns (Titans), same cd player, same cables, but we use a 12¡¨ IDQ Sub this time. All amps are properly level-matched at .64 Volt (Less than .05 watt at approximately 80 db listening room). No crossovers.
We decided to do the scoring uniform scoring from now on with the IASCA CD, track 7, 9, and 16. We use track 7 for TONALITY, 9 for IMAGING, and 16 for SPECTRAL BALANCE.
The judges: SQLRanger00, Terry_Worm, Sqphile, and myself. (Damn Retrodrive didn¡¦t show up ƒ¼).
I only slept 2 hours, so I¡¦ll keep it short
1st amp: McIntosh MCC602TM ($3500, 300 watts * 2)
2nd amp: Phass RE50 ($2,500)
3rd amp: Zapco C2K 4.0
4th Tru C7
5th Tru C72T
6th Milbert Pure tube class A

SQLRanger00 (I hate typing for this guy ƒ¼)
Track Mcintosh Comments
7 6 Left Sister Too Far Left
9 6 Piano hard to locate
16 6 Vocals Way Forward
Phass
7 3 Vocals Fine ¡V bit narrow, Guitar dead center (should be on right)
9 4 Piano is too big, Brass&woodwind section too wide
16 4 In your face vocal, pronounced midbass, loss of mid and high
Zapco
7 7 Proper Placement, Extended the width of speakers, sterile.
9 7
16 8 Nice Balance
C7
7 5 Rich Tone. Guitar centered.
9 6 Deep Stage. Great tone.
16 7 Good tone, overly rich vocals, very localized.
C7T
7 8 No Problems
9 8 SOB
16 8.9 DAMN!!!
Milbert
7 7 Better tone than most, bad placement instrument
9 8 A little shallow
16 7 B!tchin Rain Stick, Muffled vocals, wide

Sqphile
Track MC Phass Zapco C7 C7T Milbert
7 5 4 7 7 8 9
9 6 5 7 9 10 9
16 6 5 6 8 9 8

No comments (I like this guy )

Terry_worm

Track MC Phass Zapco C7 C7T Milbert
7 6.5 7 6.5 7.5 7.5 7
9 7 7 6.5 7 7.5 7
16 7 7 7 7.5 8 7

Comments:
Mcintosh: Well Balanced, Stage width so-so
Phass: Wide stage width, vocal skewed to the right
Zapco: Bright, Stage width narrow
C7: Controlled top end, solid bass
C7T: Soundstage wide open
Milbert: no comment.

Myself
Track MC Phass Zapco C7 C7T Milbert
7 7.5 7.5 7.5 8 8.5 8
9 7 7.5 7.5 8 8.5 8
16 7.5 7.5 8 8 8.5 8.5

Comments:
Mcintosh: Great overall balance, but soundstage is abit narrow.
RE50: WIDE staging, focused, but skewed to the right, vocal on track 16 is hollow sounding.
Zapco: Very well balanced, good detailed, focused.
C7: Very nice top end and midrange, centered mid
C7T: No comments.
Milbert: Great detail, laid back on vocals, natural sounding, lacks oomph.


Thank you for Idtech for his time (he was at the plant from 6 AM to 6 PM) and energy.
Thank you John Yi (Tru) and David Polur (phass usa) to send me the amps, Werewolf for his Milbert and Monolithic (Sorry, but your mono amps got problems )
And also for sqphile for his Zapco and McIntosh and Terry_worm for his C7.
PICS

Sorry for the scoring format, I copied and pasted from Word, and it's all screwed up
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